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13 Jun 2016, 7:02 pm

Edna3362 wrote:

I have many... 'Contradictory traits' for an aspie.
I had posted a list why I can't relate to most aspies somewhere...

I'd love a link, if you have one.

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13 Jun 2016, 7:41 pm

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Although I have an official DX of aspie, and my condition is as far from NT as anyone, I still feel that I do not fit in, even as aspie. A large part of the reason is that, although I know that this is a "spectrum" condition, some of my traits are not just non-aspie, but are actually the extreme opposite. (an example of a condition with an opposite trait could be someone diagnosed with, say, Down's syndrome, who has an IQ of 160.)

One example in me would be that in Asperger, they say concrete intelligence tends to be higher than abstract intelligence, but in me, my abstract intelligence is so much higher than my concrete intelligence as to be a social problem of its own. However, although Albert Einstein's abstract intelligence was abnormally high, he is still considered a possible aspie.?

Total nonsense. Aspies are never described as "excelling in concrete thought at the expense of abstract thinking" (or vice versa either). Not a recognized diagnostic trait of aspies at all.

SOME low functioning autistics are great with tools, but cant think abstractly (dont even understand money), but a trait that some folks on another part of the autism spectrum have has nothing to do with the what the definition is of another part of the spectrum is ( what some LFA have has nothing to do with being a defining trait of aspies).

I really really really do think that is has a lot more to do with mental retardation/"intelligence" than autism. Look at brain damaged or ret*d folks and they have the same issues- they just aren't autistic. And like was mentioned, autistics tend to be good at non-social abstractions with little motivation or use/need for social abstraction. I think some issues people mention sometimes are just intellect issues (that's not a judgement just sayin'). :!:

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13 Jun 2016, 7:56 pm

I have a few opposite traits.

Aspies are supposed to notice patterns, and I don't notice patterns at all. My mom told me I was overly affectionate towards my her and my dad when I was a toddler. I also have exaggerated facial expressions rather than a flat expression. I'm an extremely poor visual/spatial thinker and have a terrible sense of direction. You should have seen me trying to find the bowling alley last night! :lol:

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13 Jun 2016, 8:04 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:

I have a few opposite traits.

Aspies are supposed to notice patterns, and I don't notice patterns at all. My mom told me I was overly affectionate towards my her and my dad when I was a toddler. I also have exaggerated facial expressions rather than a flat expression. I'm an extremely poor visual/spatial thinker and have a terrible sense of direction. You should have seen me trying to find the bowling alley last night! :lol:

I can relate to the exaggerated facial expressions and terrible sense of direction.

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13 Jun 2016, 8:09 pm

Hi Schlumpfikus,

Concrete is that which is actually there, things in the real world, such as apples. If you have an apple, and you add another apple to it, you now have two apples; that is concrete. Abstract is when you take an idea, or essence, and symbolize it, such as math. 1+1=2 is an abstraction from the apple example, and now you can do it with anything, dogs, pounds, volts, potentials, curvature, not just apples. However, if someone just memorizes math, so if you say "how much is 1+1?", he says "2" and cannot apply it to the concrete world, that is not abstract, it is just memorization.
There are people called "savants" who can solve math by rote without meaning; they are not abstract thinkers at all.
Abstract thinking generalizes understanding from specific cases to all cases. An abstract thinker should have no trouble referring to pollen as sperm, or nuts as fruit, or flavors as colors, or time as length. Abstract thinkers picture graphs, while concrete thinkers picture actual objects.
At least, this is what Concrete and Abstract thinking is supposed to mean.

But I am beginning to think that autism specialists have their own language. Perhaps in their language, "concrete" means physical and "abstract" means social. As distorted as this may be, I would not be surprised!

As for buying gifts, it's not just because I don't know what they want, I cannot even buy what I want. Sometimes I can look right at the object I want and not even know it, especially clothing. I would rather stay cuddled close and warm with someone I love and not deal with the outside world at all. The closer I am to someone I love, the more comfortable I am. I am interested in their feelings, and I care, and want them to feel cared for and special.
It is the distant stranger who I have the most trouble with, especially if my goal is to turn a stranger into a friend. We would be so alien to each other that I would dread every step along the way. But if I love them, and they want me to love them, then the problems stop; close and loving is my specialty; hows that for an Aspie?

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15 Jun 2016, 3:40 am

Zylon wrote:

Ah, ok, thanks for explaining. I think now I understand it better.

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15 Jun 2016, 5:43 am

AJisHere wrote:

Edna3362 wrote:

I have many... 'Contradictory traits' for an aspie.
I had posted a list why I can't relate to most aspies somewhere...

I'd love a link, if you have one.

Why I can't related to most aspies...
It's not even complete. :lol:

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