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29 Jun 2016, 3:00 pm

I hate this idiom. I hate it so much, mostly because I never understood it. XD But it just makes me irrationally irate every time I hear it. (Probably because it doesn't make literal sense.)


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29 Jun 2016, 3:30 pm

TheBadguy wrote:
The Hungarian one makes sense.

This idiom does not. Because a Cake is the Most Compromising. You don't eat a whole cake. You cut it into pieces and eat slices. So wouldn't a cake be the symbol and analogy of compromise? Not why you cannot compromise?


Some years back - maybe a couple centuries - a cake did not necessarily refer to a huge fluffy sweet desert, it often referred to a single serving of a flour-dough nature. The word was used more generally, too, as in a, "cake" of soap meaning a small bar as we now call it.

Etymology:
Middle English (denoting a small flat bread roll): of Scandinavian origin; related to Swedish kaka and Danish kage .

Depending on the actual age of the saying we may be imparting too much modern meaning to it.


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29 Jun 2016, 3:31 pm

TheBadguy wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
A cake isn't necessarily that big. In my family it certainly was, but apparently a cake can be much smaller. My family referred to such small cakes as "buns," so their nomenclature was internally consistent and functional. Anyway, the cake referred to in the idiom is presumably more or less mouth-sized, so one would be less likely to want to share it.


But that's not a cake. That's like a cupcake man.


I saw this and thought of you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stottie_cake



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29 Jun 2016, 3:52 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
TheBadguy wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
A cake isn't necessarily that big. In my family it certainly was, but apparently a cake can be much smaller. My family referred to such small cakes as "buns," so their nomenclature was internally consistent and functional. Anyway, the cake referred to in the idiom is presumably more or less mouth-sized, so one would be less likely to want to share it.


But that's not a cake. That's like a cupcake man.


I saw this and thought of you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stottie_cake


Stottie cake is not a cake either. That's like.......a crouissant shaped donut man



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29 Jun 2016, 6:31 pm

My point exactly - not all that is called "cake" is cake.

Stottie cake sounds great when pronounced with a Geordie accent though. I think they made it up just so they could say it.