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24 Dec 2016, 4:05 pm

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How long would that one 30ml bottle last you? Is that like 1ml a dose? How many do doses a day would you say? I just wanted to get a rough understanding of how costly cbd oils are, at least in the US. Thanks in advance for any responses.


It says on the listing 10mg cbd per dropper so about a ml per dose. She noticed a decrease in joint pain that lasts half a day, and it takes an hour or so after ingesting to notice the effects. She said it's more effective than over the counter pain meds and no side effects like opioids. I don't know if we can link to these sites but if you google "goddess delivers" and look at their concentrates and tinctures you can get an idea of the costs and dosage.


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10 Aug 2019, 11:29 am

Is it harmful for health?



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10 Aug 2019, 12:29 pm

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Is it harmful for health?

Maybe for some people. I've heard it's fairly well tolerated.



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10 Aug 2019, 12:44 pm

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Is it harmful for health?

Any drug an individual tries for the first time is done so at the individual's own risk. Having said that, here's my personal opinion: I'd think it very unlikely that it would do any harm. Even regular marijuana appears to be harmless for most people, and CBD oil doesn't even have the psychoactive component.

I've tried CBD oil. Can't say I've seen any noticeable effect, though I don't doubt it might have sedative, analgesic and anti-inflammatory properties for a lot of people, and maybe others would find it makes them feel a bit weird. I'd be tempted to up the dose in my own case, but it's pretty expensive stuff, especially considering it's only an extract of wild hemp that's very cheap to make in principle. Its commercial cultivation is for some reason very heavily regulated in both the US and the UK, which I would imagine adds to the price.

If you live in the US and don't have much money, you might find it cheaper to seek out some feral hemp growing wild and use that instead, though naturally it'd be hard to know the exact dose of CBD you were getting that way, just like it is with any wild herb. Against that there's the holistic ideology from which we might figure it to be healthier to consume the leaves rather than the refined extract. And like I say, it would seem unlikely you'd do yourself any harm as long as you proceeded with due caution. Like I say, at your own risk. Don't forget you could misidentify the plant or go and eat one that had been sprayed with herbicides, so research it well and don't proceed unless you're sure you know what your'e doing. The seeds appear to be difficult to buy and I'm not sure about the legality of growing your own, though I expect it would grow very well in a hot country. It can even be grown outdoors in the UK but I've never seen it growing wild, and I gather the UK is a tad cold and dark for it.



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10 Aug 2019, 12:47 pm

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I've been wanting to try cbd oil, but not sure where or what brand to get. Once in a blue moon I'll use cannibis but I never know how I'll react to it, as it tends to amplify my senses and cause paranoia. I've been treating my anxiety using kratom for a couple years but I've grown somewhat tolerant of it unfortunately.

Where do you live? That will determine where or if you can get it.


I think its legal where I live (VA), but I REALLY don't want to walk into a headshop. I rather buy online but haven't done much research on the best brand or vendor. I just wanted to try it since the legal status of kratom is being threatened right now, plus my tolerance.


Do you have a local vitamin cottage? Or any sort of health food store that sells supplements?...That is where I got my cbd oil.


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10 Aug 2019, 11:43 pm

Cannabidiol can really do miracles, but I would consult a therapist first. Cbd oil is rather innocent by itself and has no side effects, perfectly goes with a, and is not addictive at all as it is THC free.



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19 Aug 2019, 7:46 pm

Update: I tried it at higher doses, around 400mg, and it does cushion some of my sensory issues, especially a feeling of being "inflamed inside."



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19 Aug 2019, 7:56 pm

Noca wrote:
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The hemp-derived CBD oil (defined as oil processed from industrial hemp that has been bred to keep an ultra-low THC content but higher CBD content, and then in some cases refined further to eliminate much of the non-CBD content of the oil) is legal in the USA right now.

Marijuana-derived CBD oil (defined as oil processed from marijuana to have a low THC content, higher CBD content, or some mix between the two) is illegal under federal law but legal under the laws of some states.

The absurd thing is that both kinds of oil are derived from the same genus of plant - cannabis, and often from the same species of plant (most often Cannabis Sativa, but also some times from C. Indica, C. Ruderalis, or a hybrid between two or three of these species). The only real difference is the history of production and the amount of THC content. --- But I'm not complaining. I've had reasonably good results from the hemp-derived CBD oil, which I'm very grateful for. It has helped with my anxiety, depression and sensory issues.

What is the cost like in the USD of hemp derived oil?



The difficult part of your question about how much in USD is that the states are so divided. In liberal states like Colorado, they tax the recreation users of CBD heavily and cut the medical users a break, so it cost just filing fees to grow your own there while in other states like Alabama where they are very strict, the main cost includes court fees, defense attorney, etc. for all users.



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19 Aug 2019, 11:50 pm

Noca wrote:
What is the cost like in the USD of hemp derived oil?

While in the USA I was getting this stuff:
https://www.lazarusnaturals.com/shop/ti ... gh-potency
The regular price is £110 for 3000mg CBD ($36.67 per gram), but they'll sell it to long-term disabled, war veterans and people below the official poverty line can get it for 60% off, i.e. $44 for 3000mg, or $14.66 per gram. Probably add 5 or 10% to that for shipping charges and maybe state tax or whatever. But the availability, regulation and prices might be very different in Canada. Didn't they legalise recreational marijuana there? If so I'd expect CBD to be cheaper and easier to get.

The required dose is said to vary widely from person to person, and certainly their nominal recommended 50mg dose has little or no effect on me - I get a noticeable result from about 400mg and it lasts a few hours.

There may be better deals out there, but that's the best I've found so far, and it gives some kind of a benchmark. All I can say is that it gives me some relief and I've had no side effects after using 2 bottles of it over a few months. Amazon sell only (tons of varieties of) "Hemp Oil" which doesn't state the CBD content and is hemp SEED oil that doesn't contain CBD at all. Beware of rogue traders selling stuff that doesn't work and / or is toxic. I don't know of any way to be completely sure about any particular brand. I gather the FDA did a purge on the vendors and fined a lot of them for selling crap. Sadly, CBD sale in the UK is so far unregulated although hemp growers are regulated to death.



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20 Aug 2019, 3:45 pm

I use CBD oil a few times a week, 10mg dose. The CBD oil at 10mg tends to lighten my mood. I also take kratom, low dose, 1 or 2 times a week. They work well together. Cannabis would be nice, but I do not like supporting the criminal networks associated with purchasing it on the black market. Growing my own is very risky in a small rental apartment.

Sunsoil CBD from Vermont costs 50 cents per 10mg dose and is considered to be good quality hemp based CBD oil.

https://www.sunsoil.com/collections/all ... olate-mint


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21 Aug 2019, 12:58 am

I've been thinking of using that very product for pain.


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21 Aug 2019, 11:08 am

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Some folks say it helps with pain. In my own case it doesn't seem to do anything for significant pain such as back ache, but it does seem to damp down low-level inflammation and discomfort quite nicely.



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24 Aug 2019, 7:02 pm

I've seen signs in smoke shops near me. I'm willing to do that for depression if no other medication works. I was on so many psychiatric drugs as a child that my body has built up a tolerance to the most common classes. I've been on SSRIs for seven or eight years and it's the same as taking a similar looking piece of candy.



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30 Oct 2020, 2:43 am

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Canada’s legalization of cannabis has been in the pipeline for some time now. That means that investors had plenty of opportunity to ensure that the stocks that serve the industry were priced to fairly reflect this landmark legislation before it came into effect.


I can't wait for this to happen in the USA. I have tried both CBD and whole cannabis itself. Cannabis is the only thing that ever helped with my social anxiety, my physical pain, and psychological issues relating to PTSD. When this happens, I can see potential for a vastly improved quality of life for me. People love to say, "oh just go get it from a dealer". People who say that have obviously never been targeted by the police and likely never even been ripped off by a dealer.


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30 Oct 2020, 9:03 am

Any side effects like drowsyness?


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30 Oct 2020, 4:10 pm

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Any side effects like drowsyness?


CBD [hemp derived] made me foggy and drowsy, and it put my mother to sleep more thoroughly and rapidly than the prescription medication she takes for sleep. Certain strains of cannabis can make me feel upbeat and energetic, but drowsiness is often a side effect of that as well.


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