is audetory process disorder consider LANGUAGE IMPARMENT
And language impairment without speech impairment.
Of course, both are frequently related.
Not exactly. You can have a language impairment without a speech impairment. But all speech impairments are language impairments. Speech impairment is a type of language impairment. I'm more sure now. I researched it. I was in this field but it was years ago and things change so fast, I needed to check before speaking with certainty.
Auditory processing problems can LEAD to language impairment, but its not always linked. You could theoretically have an auditory processing problem that doesn't express as a language impairment. That would look like someone who does not process auditory information typically, but is perfectly typical in language skills, perhaps because of training.
Auditory processing is a CAUSE of problems.
Language Impairment is a SYMPTOM of problems.
They are frequently linked, but they aren't the same thing.
So, the answer to the OP's question is No. An auditory processing problem alone is not enough to be considered language impaired. You also have to have actual weaknesses in expression in order to fit the criteria for language impairment.
As for the OP's writing style. I would say that this tiny sample is indicative of someone who is having deeper, more intellectual thoughts than he is expressing through his rudimentary writing style. And if he isn't getting help already, it might be really useful to get help with expressive language skills. These kinds of questions are important and having more ease with writing will help you ask them of the right people. I hope you take that as a compliment. I'm not meaning to be mean.
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I don't think you understood my post.
I'm not referring to his sentence structure. I'm referring to the content of his question and the level of discernment in it.
No, there is no link between intelligence and handwriting. That's just a myth. Some intelligent people have bad handwriting. Other intelligent people have great handwriting. Its really not linked.
One thing we know from working with autistic kids who are low or non verbal and then develop expressive language skills later is that often people with VERY poor expressive language are actually quite intelligent.
Its like the spell of shattered sight has hit wrongplant. Everyone is seeing the worst in what other people write. Its not just me. I've been watching it go down with others. I wonder what is causing this?
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So far I neither found proof that bad expression necessarily means intelligence and on terms of ugly handwriting, graphology may be bunk and ugly handwriting among the intelligent may have a correlate but there is no substantial proof for or against that intelligent people have bad handwriting.
So far however I have only experienced that intelligent people can have substantial deficits in spelling such as dyslexia or alexia. But not that they have issues with grammar. Usually people with a language disability/low verbal intelligence have grammar disability with overall intelligence rarely exceeding average intelligence. Who knows? Maybe the OP is one of the rarer cases or may have a significant intellectual strength in a specific area. However my point is, just because the OP has a language disability doesnt necessarily mean hes above average intelligence.
Poor grammar and spelling can also be due to the language not being their primary language. That is what they also look for when they try to see if someone has a language impairment or not. Are they bilingual? If they are bilingual, then language impairment is ruled out.
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I agree that you have to watch for bilingual people. That's not a impairment, that's a gift! But I wouldn't rule out language impairment in all bilingual folks. I'm guessing somewhere there is an aspie who is obsessed with languages, and knows several, and still has a language impairment because of pragmatics. Sometimes when I'm like "what the heck is this person smoking???" it turns out that they are not a native English speaker, and then my dismay turns to admiration. I wish I could speak another language.
I agree that you have to watch for bilingual people. That's not a impairment, that's a gift! But I wouldn't rule out language impairment in all bilingual folks. I'm guessing somewhere there is an aspie who is obsessed with languages, and knows several, and still has a language impairment because of pragmatics. Sometimes when I'm like "what the heck is this person smoking???" it turns out that they are not a native English speaker, and then my dismay turns to admiration. I wish I could speak another language.
I agree that it is possible to be both bilingual and language impaired. They would have to look at how well they speak in their primary language to know if they are also that.
You can always learn another language, it's never too late. I have learned some Spanish but I am not fluent in it and I would have to keep using it to have it stick in my brain so I won't forget the words. But my Spanish teacher was fluent in it so he would be bilingual but his primary language was English and every year he would take his whole Spanish 3 class to Mexico but the students had to pay their way since the school didn't cover it. Also they had to speak fluent Spanish to go.
Even though Bilingual isn't considered an impairment or a disability, it is still treated as such in the US because we accommodate them. We have interpreters for them, we print stuff off in their language at work and it's pretty limited where to live because smaller places won't do it but big cities do so that is why large cities have so many immigrants. But I think lot of people are patient with them when they speak so it's not too bad and we give them the benefit of the doubt if they misunderstand us than assuming they weren't listening. I have known some that still have troubles with our language because they have asked me what a word is for something or having me read a note that was left by the guests because they couldn't interpret it but yet could if I read it to them. But there are similarities they go through that autistic people go through when communicating.
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Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
If a person has difficulty pronouncing phonemes like /s/, or has a fluency (i.e., stuttering) disorder, without the inability to "find the right words," or to use language in proper context, this person has a speech disorder, but not a language disorder.
Frequently, these disorders are called "speech and language disorders"--but one can have one without the other.
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