What is an NT?

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A person that doesn't have any neurological disorders.

Well then it's already impossible for me...because I am usually not aware when I start stimming. I wonder how many others have that lack of awareness of their own stimming.

You do know there are neurotypical outliers that don't really fit in with the larger society as well..

Muggles

Act like you care more, but actually care less.

This.

It irks me when Aspies group everybody without an ASD as NT. NT = Neuro-typical, the clue is in the word. There are disorders other than ASDs that can make a person 'atypical', like mental retardation, Down's, ADHD, Schizophrenia, and others.

Social rules and culture dictates what's acceptable or not. Not the NTs' neurology itself.
To 'pass as NT' means to follow what's acceptable and avoid what's not.

To pass as NT regardless the means does not make one an NT. Nor when one is not able to or chooses not follow means they're not NT.

That's what I figured. But a lot of people seem to attach a lot of moral implications to that.
A person who doesn't have neurological disorder lacks intelligence, is shallow, has hive mentality,
is like a clone of everyone else, fake at all times, pretends to care but doesn't.... and so on.

So apparently not having a neurological disorder makes someone a bad person. Still not really understanding this at all. Maybe I'm just too autistic to get it.

NT stands for Nutty Toast, Nest Tigers, Neutral Tyrannosaurus, and Natural Typhoon.

I don't know if I'm on the spectrum or not, but I don't get it either. Looks like people just dishing out their frustrations to me, not anything actually logical or evidence-based. Such sweeping generalisations make me cringe.

that's what confused me the most when i first started following this website. because i used to think that that kind of behavior (attaching your identity to a group -- and then consequently generalizing opposite/opposing groups and their members as "bad") was exactly the kind of instinct that "people on the spectrum" would lack (as i do and always did lack, which is one of the most prominent "abnormal" things about me). but i guess i was wrong, and in reality this is generally not correlated (or at least not directly linked) to the presence or absence of autism

It's complicated. Some people think of NT in narrow terms of "not autistic," so they describe NTs in terms of having traits that are the opposite of autistic traits, and one of those traits is social awareness. The majority of the posters here are from the U.S., Canada, and western Europe, and a major social aspect of the particular cultures of those regions is "polite" inauthenticity (such as telling small lies to avoid hurting feelings). Then people get frustrated with this polite inauthenticity, so, instead of saying "NTs fudge the truth so people won't get hurt," they express themselves in harsher terms such as "NTs are liars."

As for intelligence, quite a few people on WP have their own personal definition of the word and often thoughtlessly apply that definition to other people without explaining themselves. So they'll be calling NTs stupid for preferring socializing to reading but it'll make no sense because they haven't explained that they think reading requires more intelligence than socializing.

Then you've got people mixing up autism with introversion, so they are complaining about NTs but they really mean extroverts.

So the discussion about NTs is a mixture of narrow definitions of the term, emotional expression, cultural specificity, and unexplained subjective meaning.

The reason could be anything. It's complicated.
But it's mainly from envy, and betrayal... I've been there myself, but then I realized that I had no real excuse for it.
Just because one cannot appreciate things the same way, then either parties insist this or that way -- autistics being black and white, NTs not tolerating or understanding enough. Of course, there will be conflict, there will be dislike, there will be hate.

Sometimes the others' reasons are more serious than that. Something justified and deep, even if it's just a series of finding the wrong people in wrong places. Something that no one would rather be in enough to gain distrust or hate towards humans.
Difference is, that they don't realize that NTs are not immune to these things.
Some pulls through all that, some are still trying to overcome this, and some remained that way.

Then there's this privilege checking. People selling themselves short... Being lonely, craving for fulfillments, and wanting more but remains out of reach. "NTs taking fulfillments for granted". Etc... Some human like demands that they are deprived of.

So they end up having conclusions that the norm is evil and untrusting, that their culture either only keeps NTs in check or made them worse.
That without culture and strict laws, NTs are no different from sociopaths or psychopaths.
And the culture that NTs follow suppresses people in the spectrum. Sometimes, some cultures don't let people be human or allowed to have problems -- whether NT or not, and the autistic may think he or she is alone or an exception.

I'm sure it could get more complicated that this. And this is just about why there are autistics hating NTs.
It's a really subjective thing.



Hate is a really easy thing to do.

A person who doesn't have neurological differences.

from...

that is the question. who exactly (and what about them) qualifies as the elusive "normal". in practice it depends on context

Honestly, the people talking about how bad NTs are make me want to vomit. It's a complete crock, and if you looked through my post history you'll see a lot of me calling people out pretty harshly on it. NTs are totally fine. I like NTs. All my friends are NTs, my family is largely NT, the people I look up to are NT. You bet I'm going to jump to their defense when someone talks s**t.