Participating in an autism research study using oxytocin

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06 Nov 2016, 9:53 am

Good Luck Noca

I have seen some of the research on Oxytocin. It relates to social bonding, supposedly it can have powerful and unexpected emotional effects.

Keeps us all posted and lets us know how you are doing.



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06 Nov 2016, 10:09 am

I required induction with oxytocin to deliver both my children, as my body just refused to go into labor on its own.
That tells me my natural oxytocin levels are probably low, and I have wondered what other effects this imbalance has on me. Watching this thread with interest.



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06 Nov 2016, 10:29 am

Ewww. Also very interested in how things go!! ! As i generally prefer not taking anything and what i have tried either doesn't work or im allergic to ( yup allergic to the happy pill - Prozac, go figure! lol)

So very interested to follow how things go! :)

Best of luck! Hope it goes well! :)



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06 Nov 2016, 1:38 pm

I can see oxytocin being helpful in treating AS symptoms. Many a time, when I went in for an oxytocin therapy session (which is how I humorously refer to sexing escorts), I find myself turning into an NT afterwards. And sex tends to spike oxytocin levels in the body. The effects are numerous:
* I'm better able to flirt with women, single and otherwise (in case of latter, it's very limited).
* I'm better able to banter with men, within certain limits (I still don't deal well with absolute jerks).
* I get treated with more respect by almost everyone, even people in "aggressive" occupations like bouncers.
* Platonic physical interactions with women, like hugging and dancing, feel much better than before "therapy".
* My mood improves for no particular reason.
* Lights at night look very mesmerizing; the effect is strongest with sodium vapor streetlights. (first few hours only)
* Colors at daytime look extremely bright and vivid, even in cloudy weather. (first few hours only)
* I plow through my tasks at work next day like a trooper.
* I start taking totally random selfies, like on the train ride back.
* Everybody I engage in conversation acts really friendly with me.

The effect lasts anywhere from a few days to a little over a month. Then they taper off. The NT-fying effects were also observed with non-sexual oxytocin-boosting, like being on a gently moving ship during a cruise.



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06 Nov 2016, 4:28 pm

It's easy to get super-high oxytocin levels without taking anything. Just get a crush on somebody, and it's done.

These researchers (and many people in this thread) have it all wrong. Oxytocin is not involved in any "imbalances" that needs pharmacological interventions. It's a sign of whether you are happy with yourself or not. Thus, to get higher oxycotin levels in a natural way, just stop your negativity and you're done. Pills won't do it for you, because the problem is negativity, not an imbalance.



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06 Nov 2016, 5:19 pm

rdos wrote:
It's easy to get super-high oxytocin levels without taking anything. Just get a crush on somebody, and it's done.
No and no.

Your statement is true if and only if the person you're crushing on likes you back OR there is actual hope (not just wishful thinking) of them liking you back. Like with the my new friend (female), who I originally met on Tinder but we're now just friends. (Except she acts far more affectionate with me than normal for guy/girl friends, but I digress.) I noticed myself acting more like an NT and being in a more peppy mood for no particular reason. I was originally upset that the romance failed, but she proved herself to be a good friend, and is fun to be around, that I enjoy having her in my life nonetheless. I still have to control my emotions and actions when spending time with her, but it's not difficult at all.

In all other cases, crushing on someone does nothing but wastes your emotional energy, a precious resource needed for surviving in the NT world.



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06 Nov 2016, 5:31 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
rdos wrote:
It's easy to get super-high oxytocin levels without taking anything. Just get a crush on somebody, and it's done.
No and no.

Your statement is true if and only if the person you're crushing on likes you back OR there is actual hope (not just wishful thinking) of them liking you back.


That might be so, but it still shows that oxytocin is related to ENVIRONMENT, and that autistics have no "imbalances" in oxytocin that needs to be treated. Instead, they have a large baggage of bad experiences that causes negativity. It's by fixing things in the environment that you start to feel better, not by taking pills. Even if oxytocin pills temporarily can fix your oxytocin levels, it's not permanent because of the dependence on how you feel about yourself.



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06 Nov 2016, 5:50 pm

rdos wrote:
That might be so, but it still shows that oxytocin is related to ENVIRONMENT, and that autistics have no "imbalances" in oxytocin that needs to be treated. Instead, they have a large baggage of bad experiences that causes negativity. It's by fixing things in the environment that you start to feel better, not by taking pills. Even if oxytocin pills temporarily can fix your oxytocin levels, it's not permanent because of the dependence on how you feel about yourself.
Now, that I can get onboard with. Nothing drives your point home better than my cruises. Heck, I was able to have a fling with one of the most awesome girls I've ever met, and made lots of friends. It was a laid-back, "come as you are" environment, where I was able to thrive, even as an aspie young man by himself. (In many other environments, such a person will almost always become a victim of a crime.)



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30 Nov 2016, 2:36 pm

I started the study today. I took my first dose of what is either oxytocin nasal spray or I shot some placebo saline mix up my nose. Supposed to shoot it up my nose 6 times twice a day.

Nothing really so far other than my eyes and nose watered. :D

I got to do some fun activities where I looked at cards of people's faces and I was supposed to guess what emotion they were feeling. This is in addition to the 7 hours or more of testing I did just to enter the study as well as an additional 3 hour interview my mom had to do over the phone to the autism assessor.