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21 Nov 2016, 5:11 pm

I was trying to find my test scores for all of this quotient stuff, but it must be on one of my old obsolete computers. From what I remember, my empathy quotient score was low. However, I have plenty of feelings for people. What I am not so good at is always putting myself in other people's shoes. For example, I used to think that because I was interested in roller coasters, caves and house plans, that everyone would also be interested in those things. From what I believe about empathy, it's not that we don't have compassion for other people, it's that we often have difficulty in conveying our compassion to people.


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21 Nov 2016, 5:31 pm

Pieplup wrote:
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Your Empathy Quotient score was 27 out of a possible 80.

Scores of 30 or less indicate a lack of empathy common in people with Autism or Asperger’s Syndrome.

https://psychology-tools.com/empathy-quotient/

I got a 13. My Old Therapist gave it to me.
Just asking but why?

I was curious what my score would be, So I asked her to administer it to me. Other than that we already knew I'd score badly.
What do you think of the test, just out of interest?
I think it's a tool that can measure how well you read and interpret facial expressions. That's mostly what was in it. I also think that as it is not a professional tool it shouldn't be treated as such. Plus, it is obvious that they have problems. It really isn't that useful unless they're trying to hide that they do.
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Well empathy by definition is the ability someone has to feel and understand another doesn't that kind of show that empathy and the capacity to feel are sort of related.



I can certainly feel to the degree that I'm more than a little thin skinned , and can be quite emotionally reactive. Therefore I have an ability to feel. Where I struggle is putting myself in other people's shoes . If someone has had bad news I'll show concern, though I'll struggle to know what to do on a practical level.
However in a debate situation I'll struggle to take on board the other person's point of view. It's very much a case of "I know you think that way but why would you?"
I struggle to interpret my emotions. It is unclear rather it is depersonalization though. It probably is. Just saying.
Yeah though sometimes I feel that an actual quiz that measures someone's ability to read facial expressions might be better than self evaluation. Their is a risk that people might over or under estimate the level of empathy they have.

Just asking but when you know you feel emotions do you struggle to know what it is that you are feeling?



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21 Nov 2016, 5:43 pm

I don't struggle to know how I'm feeling. Sometimes I struggle to know WHY I'm feeling a certain way about something, for example, when I feel anxious about going to work even though there's nothing in particular that I'm worrying about, sometimes I break down and threaten to quit, without really knowing why. But I do have an anxiety disorder so maybe that's just part of it.


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21 Nov 2016, 5:54 pm

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What is a scenario where you feel you struggle to understand another person on a practical level?


I am not sure what you would call a "practical level"


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21 Nov 2016, 5:56 pm

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What is a scenario where you feel you struggle to understand another person on a practical level?


I am not sure what you would call a "practical level"
Well you used the word. What would be scenario or example in yours eyes where you think you stuggle at understanding someone?



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21 Nov 2016, 5:57 pm

47. According to this test I'm not autistic? Bull. Lack of empathy is not a universal indicator of autism. It affects people in so many different ways. I know somebody who is autistic and does lack empathy, but I have too much. I haven't been able to sleep well for the past week because I've been picking up on my roommates' stress about the political situation and adding it to my own. If it was just my feelings I would be able to deal, but I'm feeling the emotions of three people. I felt like crap today because I tried to release a spider and it froze to death. I could imagine what it would be like to be in the spider's place (which is also how I approach political disagreements). I may not be able to read more subtle social situations (which definitely lowered my score), but I can definitely tell when somebody's hiding sadness or anger.



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21 Nov 2016, 6:01 pm

Your Empathy Quotient score was 16 out of a possible 80.



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21 Nov 2016, 6:18 pm

I scored 6 out of 80.



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21 Nov 2016, 6:49 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I don't struggle to know how I'm feeling. Sometimes I struggle to know WHY I'm feeling a certain way about something, for example, when I feel anxious about going to work even though there's nothing in particular that I'm worrying about, sometimes I break down and threaten to quit, without really knowing why. But I do have an anxiety disorder so maybe that's just part of it.
That I would say might have little to do with empathy and more to do with just the nature much of anxiety. I have a relative you gets anxiety quite frequently and when it happens she finds it difficult to pin point the reasons creating it. It doesn't necessarily mean that you lack understanding into yourself, its just that sometimes emotions can be irrational.



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21 Nov 2016, 6:58 pm

14 out of 80,

My advice to the posters is to cut the crap and not say "I am so full of empathy, more than neurotypicals".

They haven't figured out autism completely and we haven't either. Research on brains and social behavior continues to this day.


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21 Nov 2016, 7:28 pm

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14 out of 80,

My advice to the posters is to cut the crap and not say "I am so full of empathy, more than neurotypicals".

They haven't figured out autism completely and we haven't either. Research on brains and social behavior continues to this day.
Well their is that but isn't their also a problem with autistic people underestimating themselves based on the assumption that they lack empathy?



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22 Nov 2016, 2:25 am

I scored a 9.
My nan got taken into hospital this weekend... Was in a pretty bad way. Now I love my nan to bits, but the messed up thing is I wasn't upset by this at all... When all my cousins and aunts are crying their eyes out :/
This is one part of autism(I'm assuming it's my autism) that I really don't like.



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22 Nov 2016, 2:41 am

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I scored a 9.
My nan got taken into hospital this weekend... Was in a pretty bad way. Now I love my nan to bits, but the messed up thing is I wasn't upset by this at all... When all my cousins and aunts are crying their eyes out :/
This is one part of autism(I'm assuming it's my autism) that I really don't like.


I now miss my wife but when she died in terms of reaction it was as though I was emotionally dead.
A part of me thought I should be distraught but I wasn't . I was so matter of fact about it. "Oh she's dead" in monotone inner speech.
I had never considered it an autistic response. It was the same when my mother died.


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22 Nov 2016, 11:21 am

firemonkey wrote:
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I scored a 9.
My nan got taken into hospital this weekend... Was in a pretty bad way. Now I love my nan to bits, but the messed up thing is I wasn't upset by this at all... When all my cousins and aunts are crying their eyes out :/
This is one part of autism(I'm assuming it's my autism) that I really don't like.


I now miss my wife but when she died in terms of reaction it was as though I was emotionally dead.
A part of me thought I should be distraught but I wasn't . I was so matter of fact about it. "Oh she's dead" in monotone inner speech.
I had never considered it an autistic response. It was the same when my mother died.


Numbness is a common reaction to shocking news. I felt the same way when my grandfather died. And again when my one cat died. From an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense for the brain to put more energy into processing something before letting emotions take over. It's kind of like when you move your hand away from a hot stove seconds before you even feel the pain. It's not just autistic people who feel this way. It's a normal part of the grieving process that usually wears off after a while.



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22 Nov 2016, 5:11 pm

Thorski wrote:
I scored a 9.
My nan got taken into hospital this weekend... Was in a pretty bad way. Now I love my nan to bits, but the messed up thing is I wasn't upset by this at all... When all my cousins and aunts are crying their eyes out :/
This is one part of autism(I'm assuming it's my autism) that I really don't like.


I scored 6 and I know I'm not very close at all to family members. I've only ever felt close to my mum and a little bit my uncle. When something happens to other people I don't feel empathy for them at all.

I know my empathy is pretty bad because even when someone I care about is crying in front of me I still dont know how to respond properly.



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22 Nov 2016, 11:51 pm

I got 30/80, I've always been someone who put myself first and never gave much thought into others/how they felt..

At 20, I don't think i'm as bad. I make more of an effort to share, help people, open doors etc.. Just because I understand from their point of view how they feel..

Sharing/thinking about others was something that I didn't think about when I was younger.. (I don't think it's the case that I didn't understand this, more that I didn't care or bother to put it into practice).

I think this is the case for alot of young people though.. Most young people (18 and younger) don't generally think about the needs and wishes of others/emphasise with others as much as older, more mature individuals. (At least that's what my experience suggests.)



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