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22 Jan 2017, 2:33 am

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You wouldn't have nearly 2,000 posts in an online forum if you weren't social. The definition of autism doesn't same autistic people aren't social, it's a cluster of different ways socialization is atypical, and while many of those abnormalities appear to be asocial, the idea that they are necessarily asocial has been proven to be a myth (the disorder that is actually defined by being asocial is schizoid personality disorder, and depending on how you define social behavior, anti-social personality disorder).

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I've saying it's only some autistic people because I can't make the claim for all autistic people because there is no one autism, but it's clearly the case for many autistic people otherwise the community wouldn't exist. People who aren't social don't form communities.

There are communities for schizoid people, and people in those with a diagnosis of schizoid with more posts than me - guess none of them are actually schizoid, what silly doctors again.



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22 Jan 2017, 3:52 am

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You wouldn't have nearly 2,000 posts in an online forum if you weren't social. The definition of autism doesn't same autistic people aren't social, it's a cluster of different ways socialization is atypical, and while many of those abnormalities appear to be asocial, the idea that they are necessarily asocial has been proven to be a myth (the disorder that is actually defined by being asocial is schizoid personality disorder, and depending on how you define social behavior, anti-social personality disorder).

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I've saying it's only some autistic people because I can't make the claim for all autistic people because there is no one autism, but it's clearly the case for many autistic people otherwise the community wouldn't exist. People who aren't social don't form communities.

There are communities for schizoid people, and people in those with a diagnosis of schizoid with more posts than me - guess none of them are actually schizoid, what silly doctors again.


Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.


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22 Jan 2017, 3:56 am

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You wouldn't have nearly 2,000 posts in an online forum if you weren't social. The definition of autism doesn't same autistic people aren't social, it's a cluster of different ways socialization is atypical, and while many of those abnormalities appear to be asocial, the idea that they are necessarily asocial has been proven to be a myth (the disorder that is actually defined by being asocial is schizoid personality disorder, and depending on how you define social behavior, anti-social personality disorder).

...

I've saying it's only some autistic people because I can't make the claim for all autistic people because there is no one autism, but it's clearly the case for many autistic people otherwise the community wouldn't exist. People who aren't social don't form communities.

There are communities for schizoid people, and people in those with a diagnosis of schizoid with more posts than me - guess none of them are actually schizoid, what silly doctors again.


Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.

What's the difference between the two communities then?



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22 Jan 2017, 4:38 am

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You wouldn't have nearly 2,000 posts in an online forum if you weren't social. The definition of autism doesn't same autistic people aren't social, it's a cluster of different ways socialization is atypical, and while many of those abnormalities appear to be asocial, the idea that they are necessarily asocial has been proven to be a myth (the disorder that is actually defined by being asocial is schizoid personality disorder, and depending on how you define social behavior, anti-social personality disorder).

...

I've saying it's only some autistic people because I can't make the claim for all autistic people because there is no one autism, but it's clearly the case for many autistic people otherwise the community wouldn't exist. People who aren't social don't form communities.

There are communities for schizoid people, and people in those with a diagnosis of schizoid with more posts than me - guess none of them are actually schizoid, what silly doctors again.


Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.

What's the difference between the two communities then?


The fact the schizoid community isn't a thing. The autistic community, the deaf community, but the schizoid. There are communities that include schizoid people, and very small forums of schizoid people, but nothing large and cohesive enough to be called the schizoid community.


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22 Jan 2017, 5:00 am

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You wouldn't have nearly 2,000 posts in an online forum if you weren't social. The definition of autism doesn't same autistic people aren't social, it's a cluster of different ways socialization is atypical, and while many of those abnormalities appear to be asocial, the idea that they are necessarily asocial has been proven to be a myth (the disorder that is actually defined by being asocial is schizoid personality disorder, and depending on how you define social behavior, anti-social personality disorder).

...

I've saying it's only some autistic people because I can't make the claim for all autistic people because there is no one autism, but it's clearly the case for many autistic people otherwise the community wouldn't exist. People who aren't social don't form communities.

There are communities for schizoid people, and people in those with a diagnosis of schizoid with more posts than me - guess none of them are actually schizoid, what silly doctors again.


Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.

What's the difference between the two communities then?


The fact the schizoid community isn't a thing. The autistic community, the deaf community, but the schizoid. There are communities that include schizoid people, and very small forums of schizoid people, but nothing large and cohesive enough to be called the schizoid community.

So what's the cutoff for being large, and how in the f**k is the "autistic community" cohesive?



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22 Jan 2017, 5:05 am

iliketrees wrote:
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Ganondox wrote:
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Ganondox wrote:
You wouldn't have nearly 2,000 posts in an online forum if you weren't social. The definition of autism doesn't same autistic people aren't social, it's a cluster of different ways socialization is atypical, and while many of those abnormalities appear to be asocial, the idea that they are necessarily asocial has been proven to be a myth (the disorder that is actually defined by being asocial is schizoid personality disorder, and depending on how you define social behavior, anti-social personality disorder).

...

I've saying it's only some autistic people because I can't make the claim for all autistic people because there is no one autism, but it's clearly the case for many autistic people otherwise the community wouldn't exist. People who aren't social don't form communities.

There are communities for schizoid people, and people in those with a diagnosis of schizoid with more posts than me - guess none of them are actually schizoid, what silly doctors again.


Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.

What's the difference between the two communities then?


The fact the schizoid community isn't a thing. The autistic community, the deaf community, but the schizoid. There are communities that include schizoid people, and very small forums of schizoid people, but nothing large and cohesive enough to be called the schizoid community.

So what's the cutoff for being large, and how in the f**k is the "autistic community" cohesive?


Let's phrase it this way: if you write "autistic community" in wikipedia, you'll get a redirect, you'll get nothing for "schizoid community". That's because the autistic community is a thing with a long history going back to the ANI and earlier, while the schizoid community is not a thing. Now stop being pedantic, this is completely off topic.


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22 Jan 2017, 5:24 am

Ganondox wrote:
Let's phrase it this way: if you write "autistic community" in wikipedia, you'll get a redirect, you'll get nothing for "schizoid community". That's because the autistic community is a thing with a long history going back to the ANI and earlier, while the schizoid community is not a thing. Now stop being pedantic, this is completely off topic.

There's not a wikipedia page on everything, this is just ridiculous - there's a wikipedia page on things because someone decided to make one, there not being one on something doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist, just that nobody has created one - those forums are communities. And does it really have nothing to do with "identity"?



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22 Jan 2017, 7:15 am

This thread is funny.


Ganondox, you've dug yourself into a nice little hole!

Better to admit iliketrees is absolutely correct rather than trying to dig your way out/avoid her points by saying they are off-topic when they are very much on-topic.


Maybe I don't exist as no-one has taken the time to write a wiki on me.



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22 Jan 2017, 10:56 am

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So, what do you think an aspie is?


An autistic person who was diagnosed under DSM IV with a diagnostic code of 299.80.
A person who has received services billed under ICD 10 code F84.5
A person who has been diagnosed with ASD under DSM 5 with a note like "Aspergers type" or "Aspergers profile" in the diagnostic report.

This person is likely classified as ASD level 1 under DSM 5.


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22 Jan 2017, 11:06 am

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What is an aspie?

A label created by NT's, no less.

The irony is hilarious.


It is difficult to tell exactly when a term was coined but "Aspie" is claimed to be coined by Dr. Liane Holiday Willey in her 1999 autobiography "Pretending to be Normal" with the intent of connotating "images of kind and caring individuals who live lives wrapped in different colors and fluffed with different stuffings."
Aspies and Auties - New York Times

If you have evidence of the term being used at that time or earlier by a neurotypical or otherwise I would like to know.


How much for such info?

I'll accept bids over $50


Aspie is not a label created by NT's. Prove me wrong or deal with it.

It is used and abused for all sorts of reasons.


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22 Jan 2017, 4:04 pm

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This thread is funny.


Ganondox, you've dug yourself into a nice little hole!

Better to admit iliketrees is absolutely correct rather than trying to dig your way out/avoid her points by saying they are off-topic when they are very much on-topic.


Maybe I don't exist as no-one has taken the time to write a wiki on me.


She's not absolutely correct, she's just being pendantic, but that's a hard distinction to explain to a forum full of aspies. :P


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sonicallysensitive wrote:
This thread is funny.


Ganondox, you've dug yourself into a nice little hole!

Better to admit iliketrees is absolutely correct rather than trying to dig your way out/avoid her points by saying they are off-topic when they are very much on-topic.


Maybe I don't exist as no-one has taken the time to write a wiki on me.


She's not absolutely correct, she's just being pendantic, but that's a hard distinction to explain to a forum full of aspies. :P

You're being pedantic too, deciding online communities for people with schizoid aren't schizoid communities somehow. This entire reply, not even exaggerating, I mean that literally, is pedantic:

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Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.



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22 Jan 2017, 4:49 pm

iliketrees wrote:
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sonicallysensitive wrote:
This thread is funny.


Ganondox, you've dug yourself into a nice little hole!

Better to admit iliketrees is absolutely correct rather than trying to dig your way out/avoid her points by saying they are off-topic when they are very much on-topic.


Maybe I don't exist as no-one has taken the time to write a wiki on me.


She's not absolutely correct, she's just being pendantic, but that's a hard distinction to explain to a forum full of aspies. :P

You're being pedantic too, deciding online communities for people with schizoid aren't schizoid communities somehow. This entire reply, not even exaggerating, I mean that literally, is pedantic:

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Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.


...do you even know what the word pedantic means? I'm just going to ignore you from now on.


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What is an aspie?

Most are self-obsessed narcissists who like to think of themselves as 'individuals' and 'free thin.... blah... blah... blah.


Would anyone else like to see this POS trawling cock bag kicked off this site. Just every thread he visits... what a w*ker! I have seen threads shut down dead because of this prick, important ones. Just waiting for the person he does that too as well.

Administration.
PLEASE REMOVE THIS USER INDEFINITELY!

Oh he wins you say, I reacted. Nup, if the administration of this site is legitimatey caring for those really struggling, which I can see they really do, this is the last post sonicallysensitive will be able to comment on here.


Have you tried reporting him for trolling or something?


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22 Jan 2017, 5:01 pm

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So, what do you think an aspie is?


An autistic person who was diagnosed under DSM IV with a diagnostic code of 299.80.
A person who has received services billed under ICD 10 code F84.5
A person who has been diagnosed with ASD under DSM 5 with a note like "Aspergers type" or "Aspergers profile" in the diagnostic report.

This person is likely classified as ASD level 1 under DSM 5.


While that is what it means to have aspergers, who actually uses "aspie" in that manner? The pragmatics are completely different.


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22 Jan 2017, 5:05 pm

Ganondox wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
sonicallysensitive wrote:
This thread is funny.


Ganondox, you've dug yourself into a nice little hole!

Better to admit iliketrees is absolutely correct rather than trying to dig your way out/avoid her points by saying they are off-topic when they are very much on-topic.


Maybe I don't exist as no-one has taken the time to write a wiki on me.


She's not absolutely correct, she's just being pendantic, but that's a hard distinction to explain to a forum full of aspies. :P

You're being pedantic too, deciding online communities for people with schizoid aren't schizoid communities somehow. This entire reply, not even exaggerating, I mean that literally, is pedantic:

Quote:
Not like there is an autistic community. Of course not all schizoid people are completely asocial, that's just the prototype, and even then it's not completely asocial, just a tendency towards asociality.


...do you even know what the word pedantic means? I'm just going to ignore you from now on.

Why ask a question if you admit you'll ignore the response?