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28 Feb 2017, 3:01 am

Not particularly. My life, while obviously not being "normal" as an NT would see it, is plenty comfortable.

People leave me alone and I leave them alone. There are no fights and no drama. I will never divorce and get my life destroyed in an instant. I will never have children and become estranged or have them taken from me. A dog and God are plenty sufficient for my companionship and spiritual needs and my family and I get along splendidly. I feel no peer pressure and no need to "keep up with the Joneses". I do not participate in the rat race, money being secondary and status being utterly insignificant.

Because I am considered disabled, the government puts money in an investment account to my name in the form of $20,000 in bonds, and I can also put my own money in the pot : the government triples the first $1,500 and doubles the next $1,000. I will never be destitute in retirement. I have no needs outside the basics and my interests (which are not expensive at all to enjoy), so it is easy for me to save and difficult to acquire debt.

I carry my cross, and of course sometimes I get depressed, knowing the price I pay for having autism in a society that is not made for the likes of me. I know that there are things I'll never get to enjoy. But I've found that with time and introspection, those pangs diminish. The trick is to realize that what the idea of "normal" we are taught to achieve is utterly foreign to us and not even targeted at us. It shouldn't and doesn't concern us, so we need to adjust our expectations accordingly.

An NT's life is a series of ups and downs, great triumphs and great disappointments. That is "normal" life. NTs know what it is to romantically love somebody but they also know what it's like to lose the person they love. They know marriage but also divorce (in the majority of cases). They know the elation of having good friends at their side and doing things with them, but also loneliness.

My life is flattened : there are fewer lows, but also fewer highs, and they tend not to be as intense. I give up on some things but gain others. I give up risk and acquire stability, for example. I give up on progeny and matrimony and acquire free time. That is a bargain I can tolerate. This society is made for those who like taking big risks where they can win big and lose big. I'm happy to content myself with my lot, never really winning but never really losing either.

If I could choose, I would be born NT. But after realizing I could never become NT or even truly functional in this society, I've made do with what God has given me. It's not that bad. I find joy in the world around me rather than in other people. I can enjoy moving music, beautiful paintings, the Sun's light rays breaking through a forest's canopy, friendly dogs and good books as well as any NT. Humans live a mere 80-85 years. There is too much to enjoy to waste time mourning what we won't get to.


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28 Feb 2017, 4:27 am

Yes in general due the stigmas, stereotypes, bullying cyber or otherwise, the hours of ABA, and whatever direct Autism caused disabilities exist. The proceding is a general statement that does not apply to all autistics and may be based on misinformation and my own stereotypes.


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28 Feb 2017, 6:46 am

I don't. If anything, I'm likely feel sorry towards anyone who are inherently needy, in any form or another.


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28 Feb 2017, 6:52 am

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This is why I don't want a child on the spectrum. I don't want a child that has an increased chance of getting bullied and being socially isolated.

Saying that, I don't want a child with ANY sort of difference that may increase their chance of being bullied. I know NT children can be bullied too but non-NT children are more at risk, especially if their disability isolates them from their peers.


So what are you going to do if they're born on the spectrum? Kill them? Will that make your life any easier? Funny, I thought all people's lives were valuable.


I hate autism, there I said it. I don't hate autistic people, I just hate autism. I hate having it, and I'm damned if I'm going to bring a child in this world to suffer by society. So sadly I won't have children. I'd love a little girl or boy of my own, but if my curse is going to be passed on then it's probably better I spare the heartache.
No I won't kill them. Why do you have to attack me for? We don't all love our autism that much to want to pass it on to another human being.


If you want kids you don't have to be childless, plenty of people foster these days. Of course it would depend on a lot of factors but there's an idea for you perhaps. There's plenty of helpless kids going through the foster system in the UK. It's absolutely shocking what some of them go through though, I watched a few documentaries on our foster system and it's a disgrace.


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28 Feb 2017, 6:55 am

I would adopt, but the only thing about that is I wouldn't be able to breastfeed, and I'd love to breastfeed. Breasts only develop milk if you get pregnant.


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28 Feb 2017, 7:00 am

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I would adopt, but the only thing about that is I wouldn't be able to breastfeed, and I'd love to breastfeed. Breasts only develop milk if you get pregnant.


Yeah but you'd get more joy out of having a kid in general than just not being able to breast feed if you really want kids. Maybe think of it like your boobies are broke? lol


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28 Feb 2017, 7:06 am

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I would adopt, but the only thing about that is I wouldn't be able to breastfeed, and I'd love to breastfeed. Breasts only develop milk if you get pregnant.


Adoptive mother's can (and do) breastfeed, most won't get a full supply (unless they have breastfed before) but there are medications to induce lactation. Just letting you know it that is ever an option for you.



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28 Feb 2017, 7:10 am

No, I don't. Everyone should be treated respectfully no matter who they are though.(Race,gender,disability,etc.)
Everyone has things that they struggle at, and things they excel at, things that they are born with or develop. It's just a part of life, to make mistakes and to struggle sometimes.

In a weird way, I'm excited to see what struggles my daughter (NT) has as she grows up because I know that she will learn from them and they will help shape who she it.



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28 Feb 2017, 8:12 am

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Everyone has things that they struggle at, and things they excel at, things that they are born with or develop. It's just a part of life, to make mistakes and to struggle sometimes.

That's true, but to varying degrees. Some people struggle to take care of themselves, some simply can't. Other peoples' biggest struggle in life is, "Do I listen to the TV, or just watch it while eating crunchy food?"



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28 Feb 2017, 8:22 am

Exuvian wrote:
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Everyone has things that they struggle at, and things they excel at, things that they are born with or develop. It's just a part of life, to make mistakes and to struggle sometimes.

That's true, but to varying degrees. Some people struggle to take care of themselves, some simply can't. Other peoples' biggest struggle in life is, "Do I listen to the TV, or just watch it while eating crunchy food?"


I understand this and of course it must be frustrating to extremely low-functioning people and their carers. It's just that we can't stop children from being born with autism (currently) so I don't feel the need to feel sorry for them, it's just something that happens.



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28 Feb 2017, 8:52 am

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I thought all people's lives were valuable.


Honestly, nobody wants to say it, but really we're all as worthless and irrelevant as eachother. I think every ego wants to feel privileged and important regardless of looks, intelligence, how you're wired etc.

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I hate autism, there I said it. I don't hate autistic people, I just hate autism. I hate having it, and I'm damned if I'm going to bring a child in this world to suffer by society.


Joe brings up a good point here; even though I actually like being on the spectrum myself as a milder case, I hate how most people you come into contact with will mistreat you for your 'traits'.


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28 Feb 2017, 8:58 am

Xochitl wrote:
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I would adopt, but the only thing about that is I wouldn't be able to breastfeed, and I'd love to breastfeed. Breasts only develop milk if you get pregnant.


Adoptive mother's can (and do) breastfeed, most won't get a full supply (unless they have breastfed before) but there are medications to induce lactation. Just letting you know it that is ever an option for you.


True. I suppose I can't have my cake and eat it. :)


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28 Feb 2017, 9:24 am

If they're "higher functioning", I really don't feel sorry for them. I've been getting through life decently as of now and I always have been. If they have a bad home situation, then I would feel sorry for them. When I was younger, I always liked school, because I had such a great memory. As for ones who can't be classified as "higher functioning", it depends. Are they nonverbal? Throwing constant tantrums? I do feel sorry for them, because it isn't their fault.


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28 Feb 2017, 11:27 am

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Today at the shop I work at, I saw this absent-minded 5 year old guy walking around with a cowlick, and I knew he was on the spectrum; his mother was petting his head, and he honestly seemed unfazed by it all. I just thought to myself "that guy will probably grow up to get scapegoated and bullied by dicks in school", the sad truth of it all.


I feel like you described my brother. My mom doesn't do anything though (I think she just pretends it doesn't happen) and he's a teenager but regardless ... he does the same absent-minded walking around thing. Though probably not absent minded. Sometimes he's just warped in some sort of day dream and aggressively paces, makes noises under his breath, sometimes bobs his head around ~ all of this is what he regularly does at home. It's embarrassing if we're being honest, but I never directly call him out for it ... I'd just be like "yo what are you doing".

I worry about he acts/is treated in school, but I think he's doing fine. He actually has friends and goes out regularly on Friday nights/weekends. So I mean, his social life in high school is much better than mine. Mine was nonexistent lol

Now that I think about, I'm probably very obviously absent-minded though. Probably why I'm avoided by others.



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28 Feb 2017, 3:45 pm

I feel sorry for people who are unable to accept autistic children and adults, as they are instead of trying to change them.


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28 Feb 2017, 5:12 pm

The Unleasher wrote:
If they're "higher functioning", I really don't feel sorry for them. I've been getting through life decently as of now and I always have been.


I'm glad for you, but many 'higher functioning' people have serious struggles. I myself found school to be very difficult, and the workplace even more so. Every day is difficult.