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shortfatbalduglyman
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28 Apr 2017, 9:15 pm

"I know others here fly below the proverbial radar and don't get recognized as autistic, and others are recognized as different all the time. I suppose I thought I was blending in more than this, but apparently not.
Anyone have anything like this happen? Have an opinion?"

when i was in k-12, especially 6-8. precious lil cisgender neurotypical "people" recognized me as "different". a lot. and they expressed it in a lot of ways. teasing. bullying. and et cetera. lame lil jokes.

the undergrad i went to was in an area that was not diverse racially or in any other way. thus, i had a hard time fitting in.

not to say that i ever did fit in.

when i was 21, a 61 year old in Structural Engineering 125: Statistics, Probability and Reliability class. had the nerve to say that. based solely on his observations of me during class, he diagnosed me as autistic. and he read a book about aspergers. and he diagnosed himself with aspergers. so i told him that the year before, i got an official diagnosis from a neuropsychiatrist. he then told me that he did not think that psychotherapy, support groups, or psychotropic meds would benefit him. he had a really big ego. :roll:

in any event, he did not have the legal right to diagnose me with aspergers. b/c he did not have that degree in that subject. and he was not working in that job. and i was not his client. seriously, some idiots truly believe they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

then around 2014, the aikido instructor's spouse told me that the aikido instructor told her. that i was autistic and clinically depressed. and he somehow "knew" that, based only on watching me during class. the aikido instructor himself was autistic.

but, of course, the aikido instructor did not administer the diagnosis test to me. nor did i tell him about it.

on the other hand, in his defense, though. what is so great about the IQ test. the IQ test does not feature field observation. watching someone in his/her natural/artificial habitat, says. to me. says a lot more than just making someone answer a bunch of random, useless questions. hence, the IQ test.

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when i was 25, some preteens said :) "run, forrest run". :idea: one of them pointed out that my shirt was wet. the other answered that maybe it was sweat from running. the other one said "run, forrest, run". but neither of them saw me run. :twisted:



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28 Apr 2017, 11:03 pm

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They probably didn't know you have autism. Because you don't look like you have autism since it's mental and a physical disability. They're probably just 2 guys just being stupid and immature and doing something random when they saw you. They probably didn't know you had anything wrong with you.

Yes but why that remark? If they'd just yelled random expletives at me I wouldn't have given it a second thought. I wondered about why they chose that remark, based on a character who was cognitively different. Sometimes people with developmental delays are recognizeable from just looking at them. You can tell there is something off about them even if they're dressed normally doing normal things. I suppose I wondered if I look recognizeably different because of autism.
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Forest Gump was cognitively impaired so I'm not sure why people are talking about looking autistic. Autism and cognitive impairment are two different things.

That's another interesting thing though - apart from the above, where people with a developmental delay or intellectual disability can look obviously different, often these kinds of people will single me out in a crowd, ignoring other people walking by, and wave and smile at me (which I always return) or come up to me and tell me random things. I never really thought about that much until these dudes were possibly singling me out too. Maybe people who are cognitively different can recognize something about others?
I wasn't especially bothered about it as I said, I'm way past remarks like this worrying me, but it was weird to think that perhaps I can be physically recognised so easily strangers I haven't even spoken to can tell.
It's entirely possible they were just random idiots, but the remark was what made me wonder.
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This question just popped in my head. But were the 2 guys kids, teens, or adults?

They looked adult to me, 20s or 30s. Teenage boys yelling things at you is fairly common, but two grown men doing it? That's another reason I wondered if there was something in it.


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29 Apr 2017, 3:45 am

It is virtually impossible to tell if somebody is autistic by just seeing them walk around. I bet they were just running up to people and saying random stuff. Maybe they said it because you had a collared shirt. My classmates will go to the mall and do the same thing, look at people's appearance, then run up and make a snide remark. Very petty and cowardly thing to do.


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29 Apr 2017, 3:53 am

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
"I know others here fly below the proverbial radar and don't get recognized as autistic, and others are recognized as different all the time. I suppose I thought I was blending in more than this, but apparently not.
Anyone have anything like this happen? Have an opinion?"

when i was in k-12, especially 6-8. precious lil cisgender neurotypical "people" recognized me as "different". a lot. and they expressed it in a lot of ways. teasing. bullying. and et cetera. lame lil jokes.

the undergrad i went to was in an area that was not diverse racially or in any other way. thus, i had a hard time fitting in.

not to say that i ever did fit in.

when i was 21, a 61 year old in Structural Engineering 125: Statistics, Probability and Reliability class. had the nerve to say that. based solely on his observations of me during class, he diagnosed me as autistic. and he read a book about aspergers. and he diagnosed himself with aspergers. so i told him that the year before, i got an official diagnosis from a neuropsychiatrist. he then told me that he did not think that psychotherapy, support groups, or psychotropic meds would benefit him. he had a really big ego. :roll:

in any event, he did not have the legal right to diagnose me with aspergers. b/c he did not have that degree in that subject. and he was not working in that job. and i was not his client. seriously, some idiots truly believe they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

then around 2014, the aikido instructor's spouse told me that the aikido instructor told her. that i was autistic and clinically depressed. and he somehow "knew" that, based only on watching me during class. the aikido instructor himself was autistic.

but, of course, the aikido instructor did not administer the diagnosis test to me. nor did i tell him about it.

on the other hand, in his defense, though. what is so great about the IQ test. the IQ test does not feature field observation. watching someone in his/her natural/artificial habitat, says. to me. says a lot more than just making someone answer a bunch of random, useless questions. hence, the IQ test.

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when i was 25, some preteens said :) "run, forrest run". :idea: one of them pointed out that my shirt was wet. the other answered that maybe it was sweat from running. the other one said "run, forrest, run". but neither of them saw me run. :twisted:


What do the kids being cisgendered have to do with anything? As if their sexuality had anything to do with them being dicks.


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29 Apr 2017, 5:05 pm

Those dudes are just being immature, you can simply ignore people like them.



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30 Apr 2017, 2:57 pm

+1 interesting post


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30 Apr 2017, 9:35 pm

I can often tell if somebody else is (even mildly) autistic by seeing them walk around.... mind-body connection and all that, certain thought patterns reflected in certain uses of musculature, etc. But its something I've thought a lot about wrt to myself, so its something I'm particularly sensitive to.

Kids can be pretty intuitive sometimes, even if they're just trying to be mean. Maybe especially if they're just trying to be mean.

That said, I wouldn't think "oh man, everyone thinks/knows I'm autistic just by looking at me", seems more likely a freak one-off type thing.



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02 May 2017, 12:31 pm

C2V wrote:
Something weird just happened.
I was walking into a shopping centre to get groceries, and two guys were walking toward me. They looked over at me and sort of sniggered. Then they got closer, one of them yells at me "Run, Forrest, run!" And they both laughed.
Their meaning is obvious, and I am way past anything like this bothering me, so if that was their intention they failed.
But I do find it confusing. I was if anything looking less autistic than usual, because I'd had things to do earlier in the day where it was better to look as normal as possible. I was dressed in a way I know is normal, in clean black pants and a clean collared shirt with blue stripes on it. I wasn't doing anything weird - I was just walking across a parking lot looking at a list to make sure it was the grocery one.
And yet two total strangers pegged me as ret*d.
It makes me wonder if I look this way all the time, regardless of how normal I think I look, and others who have said I don't were just trying to be polite and therefore lying to me (because they view telling someone they look autistic as an insult, which is an unintentional but really sh***y attitude I won't get into in this post).
I don't really know what to think about this encounter.
I know others here fly below the proverbial radar and don't get recognized as autistic, and others are recognized as different all the time. I suppose I thought I was blending in more than this, but apparently not.
Anyone have anything like this happen? Have an opinion?
I don't really know what I'm asking exactly, it was just weird.
Was your collar buttoned ? Because if so , from what I have read , that might have had something to do with it . http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2009/12/shirtbuttoning_styles_of_the_weird_and_special.html



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05 May 2017, 5:18 am

^ Hah no, though that was an interesting article. Ironically due to sensories I can't stand anything tight on me, and buttoned up shirts count. I left the top one undone.
I used to think that childish things were the sort of intellectually disabled telltale the author claims the buttoned-up look creates - adults who wore clothing with cartoon characters on them, carried backpacks designed for young kids, or had keychains everywhere with teddybears on them etc. But now that seems to be acceptable norm for "normal" adults, so I'm not betting on that one anymore either.
PS - on the physical resemblance, I didn't think that was likely either, as Tom Hanks was a grown man at the time, and I look like a child. Plus I thought I look pretty femme - though I may be wrong on that score too.


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