I do NOT wish to have my autism reversed.

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DeaconBlues
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28 May 2007, 2:03 pm

And if I had the choice, I'll take the voice I got,
'Cause it was hard to find,
You know I've come too far to wind up right back where I started....


- Concrete Blonde, "True"

Actually, that whole song can apply - I might have to quote it in its entirety elsewhere.

Edited to add:
Whoever wrote that bit about the "electrical buildup" in autistic children has no idea how electricity works, nor how neural transmission works. Synthetic clothing is uncomfortable to some of us because of the way it feels on our skin (plucking at the tiny hairs, for instance). Children who are uncomfortable being held don't like it even if you're both naked - it has nothing to do with what clothing is being worn. Further, if such a powerful static charge were to build up, it would begin to interfere with the autonomic nervous system - resulting in arrhythmia, and frequent death from cardiac arrest (the pulmonary system, after all, is particularly vulnerable to electrical disruption).

It may also be worth noting that one of the methods recommended in that paragraph for ridding the children of their "electrical buildup" is wearing shoes "with real rubber soles" - which are an insulator, not a conductor. The effect would be the exact opposite of its obvious intent, effectively trapping any such "buildup" in the child's system until it could ground some other way. (That's why when you walk on a carpeted surface wearing sneakers, then touch a metal surface, say a filing cabinet or a doorknob, you feel a shock. Walking across the carpet caused a static charge to collect, and the rubber in the sneakers prevented it from discharging back into the carpet. Its next ground point is going to be the first conductor you touch.)

Strikes me that the curebies are starting to grasp at pseudoscientific straws in their effort to "prove" that we could be "just like them" if we just tried hard enough...


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28 May 2007, 4:12 pm

deep-techno wrote:
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I can't see the ad, but here on my table there is this nice yellow pill to reverse NTism I have just created... 8O


Is it that smiley? :?



No, it's a round, small, bright, good-smelling pill. :wink: Some NTs could really benefit by it.

I'm really sorry for those who whant to reverse it, that means you are suffering from AS, so I really hope you can find a way to deal with it.

I'm STRONGLY convinced that THERE IS a way. It took several years of struggling and suicidal attitude but I found it, so my answer is definitely NO, I'm just fine right now (of course with some issues you all know, but who has no issues?).

You CAN have AS and enjoy your life. (with the plus of having the good features of AS)


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28 May 2007, 6:01 pm

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Also, you'd have to worry about people taking the wrong dose of "cure" too.....

http://www.health-reports.com/autism.html
Here is a quote from the middle of the page:

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Cellular Zeolite Testimonials

“I cut back as quick as I got your message. Reduced him to 1 drop instead of three. He was MUCH happier for the rest of the day. All smiles actually. A few people and kids I know are taking it now. We are comparing notes. Here are the negatives we have collectively seen: skin rash, like hives/heat rash or pimples/pox, tired, chest pain (from gas), very gassy, loss of or decreased appetite, aggression/self injury, emotions all over the place.



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Towards the bottom of the page I found this:

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Autistic children build up an electrical charge in their body. Synthetic clothing and shoes do not allow that charge to be dissipated and can be most uncomfortable. If your child does not like being held, it may be that you are wearing synthetic clothing.
A copper wire worn around the ankle can help dissipate the electrical charge that develops in your child, or going barefooted on the ground or in shoes with real rubber soles. You can put a volt meter on the child and get a reading. One way to relieve the buildup of electrical charge in your child is to have them sleep on a special grounding mattress pad that uses carbon fibers in the pad, connected to a grounding wire you stick into the ground. This passively and immediately grounds a person while they sleep.


Anyone found any support for this information? This is the first time I've ever heard of electricity as a cause for sensory problems....


MY GOD, WHAT STUPIDITY!! !! !! !!

Normal clothing DOES NOT, and CAN NOT keep current from being dissapated! If it did, and you went to the restroom to do your thing, you would be FRIED by the many MILLIONS of volts that would have to jump to the ground! The FACT, known for HUNDREDS of years, and PROVEN by little kids that can't even READ is that some materials have different potentials. It is said that even Benjamin franklin found this out by wearing silk socks(for look) on top of wool socks(for warmth). And what of the kids that rub ballons on their shirts? What of the static cling in the dryers? what of vandergraff generators? The person that wrote that piece on electricity should be sent back to kindergarten!

SO, are autistic kids more likely to have a voltage? Unless they stim a lot with certain materials nearby, I DOUBT IT! Will "normal" kids have a voltage? ****OF COURSE****! So how can you avoid it? FORGET that STUPID advice!

If you REALLY want to have a near zero potential, get an ESD(AKA GROUNDING) strap! You can find them at any decent electronic store, and they are made for PRECISELY this purpose, because working near out of circuit ICs without a grounding strip can DESTROY the ICs!

Other good advice? Keep the temperature nominal and above 40 with humidity. That will make the AIR more conductive and dissipate the voltage. OH, and stay away from new carpets or artificial materials.

What happens if you DON'T do this? You MIGHT feel a shock at times if you touch metal.

Steve



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28 May 2007, 6:13 pm

I use to stick my fingers in wall outlets when I was very little.



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28 May 2007, 7:15 pm

Phssthpok wrote:
I use to stick my fingers in wall outlets when I was very little.

Well, yes, but you were just Homo habilis then - and besides, now that you're a Protector-stage Pak, I don't think a little current's going to hurt you... :)


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28 May 2007, 7:40 pm

I read the ad. The whole thing smacks of quackery and gobble-dee-gook. I'd steer clear
of this. I don't think there is a way to reverse any of the negative effects of autism without
doing any more harm. One can learn coping tactics and social techniques, which is what I've
done to survive. This health reports dot com looks more like a dot con.



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28 May 2007, 8:07 pm

What of those
who were never given a voice
unable to write through this prose
never given a choice
never had anything to find
always had nothin’ to lose
do you speak for these



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28 May 2007, 9:18 pm

Ask your doctor about Avavavavestion, the anti-autism pill.

Warning; side effects may include nauseau, vomitting, lack of sleep, complete loss of identity, "madness", over socializing, being a total fake in front of people, over grooming, frequent illogical thoughts, over emotional-ness, stupidity, loss of memory, some people wanna fill the world with silly love songs, lack of creativity, lack of interest in anything interesting, obsessive celebrity news following, conforming to the system, suicidal thoughts, suicide, and expensive clothes. (Oh yeah, and you might explode.)


I can't wait.
(^sarcasm)

Danielismyname, your post was lovely.



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28 May 2007, 9:40 pm

I don't want to "cure" my... undiagnosed behavior.

However, I would very much like to learn ways to cope with it.
Overcoming social paranoia/anxiety, obsessive compulsive tendencies and verbal communication problems would grant me a better quality of life.

I'm now planning on speaking to my doctor about seeing a shrink. It seems to be the best way to get some meds. Hopefully this will help me overcome abuse of other self medications (alcohol and the like... stuff better left to the adult forum).



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28 May 2007, 9:42 pm

I think what I really mean is, "I don't mind living the reality I have manifested in my head. I'd just like to share it with others."



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29 May 2007, 4:33 am

Tequila wrote:
Do I want to reverse my Asperger's syndrome? The answer is no. In any event, it would not deal with all the other difficulties I have. I am relatively accepted within my community so see no real incentive in a cure, even if one were to be found.

The ad is a con.


I agree - I don't want to reverse my AS and I also think the ad is unlikely to be based on anything genuine.

My friends accept me for who I am. I do experience some discrimination in society - but it is the people who discriminate who have the problem, not me! That is why I do disability equality campaigning.

For the record I have been diagnosed by a medical professional - I am not just self-diagnosed, although I don't see a problem with that as long as people have done enough research to get a clear understanding of ASDs and are trying to look at themselves as objectively as possible.



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29 May 2007, 5:43 am

If we 'reverse' then they win. I don't want them to win, really.


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29 May 2007, 5:53 am

No. God no. Aspergers is, in my experience, not some great genetic defect, not some insurmountable mental frailty or flaw or disability, but a component of my personality, my raw being - so tremendous that, without it, I might not resemble who I am now in the slightest sense. When I was diagnosed at the age of eleven those long years ago, I felt no different save for the peculiar sensation of having a label applied to your statistical forehead. It seemed everyone expected me to experience some world-shattering realization, every element of confusion in my life suddenly sliding into correct position. No, I was just content that everyone else had caught up with whereabouts I was and began to understand it themselves.

Why the hell would I want to eliminate something from my intellect that, even considering all its challenges, provides so many gifts?



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29 May 2007, 6:03 am

aspie17 wrote:
i want to reverse it


I've mentioned before that oyxtocin is likely the best treatment option available.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... t=oxytocin



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29 May 2007, 11:30 am

Hell.
I want to reverse my autism.

I would be so glad if i would just get up one day and i could look into peoples' eyes and know what's behind that not-meaning-anything-face.

But it won't work that way, ever.



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29 May 2007, 11:35 am

I'd reverse mine immediately, but I'm sure any of those sponsored computer ads are just scams.