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12 Aug 2017, 8:47 am

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Bump. Would be interested on others views on being 'out of sync', and unsure whether neurodiverse or neurotypical.


I'm 150% out of sync. I have conversations with people that baffle me all the time. For instance at a job that people work where they do 50% the work of a normal job they make say double the amount of money or triple in less time. HOWEVER I see people complain about this because they are used to making Quadruple. This never affects me and I constantly say it's more than X, be happy its not Y. Or the infamous, whelp just a bad game/bad night, tomorrow will probably be better.

Other people look at me like I'm weird for not caring sometimes. I also have a strange view of people and relationships as well from most people to the point where I often tell myself I'm going to be single forever and that's just me. It feels like I'm out of tune with what other people like and dislike, and I guess that's ok. I would rather be alone than be miserable trying to copy social interactions basics and hate myself for doing it to meet someone.



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12 Aug 2017, 8:58 am

The original post question is meaningless.

"Neurodiverse" means "neuro" "diverse".

If you are that then you "diverge" from the norm. its doesn't mean that you converge onto some second thing that is a single alternative to "neurotypical". It just means that you diverge from the norm. So expecting to conform to neurodivergent is to expect to unite with a group of people who have no unity to unite each other with in the first place (other than the unity of not being typical). Neurodiverse folks by definition diverge in different directions from the norm, so by definition they diverge from each other as well (indeed diverge from each other even more than NT differ from other ND folks- just like the tips of tree branches on opposite sides of the same tree are farther apart from each other than either are from the tree's central trunk). Nts are the tree trunk, and the neurodiverse are the tips of the branches.



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12 Aug 2017, 9:03 am

naturalplastic wrote:
The original post question is meaningless.

"Neurodiverse" means "neuro" "diverse".

If you are that then you "diverge" from the norm. its doesn't mean that you converge onto some second thing that is a single alternative to "neurotypical". It just means that you diverge from the norm. So expecting to conform to neurodivergent is to expect to unite with a group of people who have no unity to unite each other with in the first place (other than the unity of not being typical). Neurodiverse folks by definition diverge in different directions from the norm, so by definition they diverge from each other as well (indeed diverge from each other even more than NT differ from other ND folks- just like the tips of tree branches on opposite sides of the same tree are farther apart from each other than either are from the tree's central trunk). Nts are the tree trunk, and the neurodiverse are the tips of the branches.


I hate to ask this but can you explain NT and ND I still don't get how they are different, also can you use an example. Something like NT Bob wants to buy cherries. ND buys apples idk...I have no idea what I'm saying I would just like an explanation and example to make sense of it if that makes sense.



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12 Aug 2017, 9:13 am

When I was young, I knew I'm a bit out of sync. I didn't like it back then, so I tried to go ahead as much as possible.
At my teens, I was rather devastated by it because I didn't get it. I didn't see it. I didn't understand. I never knew I'm seriously off the sync until then. I couldn't get ahead. I have no means.

Eventually, I accepted it. Embraced it. I had even taken it for granted. Then, I understood it.
Nonetheless, I accept it that way. And I have a choice whether to go ahead of others or chase that sync to match it or leave it, with the means to or not.



Offtopic: Reminds me of what Filipinos are somewhat. :twisted: With different ways, different languages, even different isle/island, then forced to speak with one language and define themselves with one name of a nation when in reality, they are just a bunch of tribes united by their foreign conquerors centuries ago.
Then at this present, there's this mass cultural confusion...
But ah, it'll take way too long to explain. :| I'll just stop right here.


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12 Aug 2017, 9:16 am

Now that I have learned to do more for myself and I have a wider circle of friends, I don't feel that much different from others. I do feel bad sometimes knowing that others achieved the same things years ago and I will be far behind all my life. I have reached a plateau in my development and probably will never catch up. I didn't get a driver's license until I was 48 years old. That put me way behind in everything all my life. At a time when I should have been out there in the world, I was engaged in some stupid obsession or another. I don't regret the knowledge I gained from studying, but I do regret not having applied any of it.



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12 Aug 2017, 9:27 am

naturalplastic wrote:
The original post question is meaningless.

"Neurodiverse" means "neuro" "diverse".

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That needed to be prefaced with IMO.



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12 Aug 2017, 9:42 am

naturalplastic wrote:
The original post question is meaningless.

"Neurodiverse" means "neuro" "diverse".

If you are that then you "diverge" from the norm. its doesn't mean that you converge onto some second thing that is a single alternative to "neurotypical". It just means that you diverge from the norm. So expecting to conform to neurodivergent is to expect to unite with a group of people who have no unity to unite each other with in the first place (other than the unity of not being typical).


Have you ever stopped to consider in your quest to criticise my original post that I realise that there are many different forms of neurodivergency . In the sense that one is talking about a divergence from the typical it could be seen as a singular thing even if in other respects neurodivergency comes in all shapes and sizes.

Perhaps my intention is to decide which grouping I fit with the typical or non typical, which subgroup of the non typical I fit with is a separate consideration.

I have no dx as such but from my own research some degree of dysgraphia/dyspraxia/directional dyslexia/asd/nvld makes sense.



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12 Aug 2017, 10:33 am

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
The original post question is meaningless.

"Neurodiverse" means "neuro" "diverse".

If you are that then you "diverge" from the norm. its doesn't mean that you converge onto some second thing that is a single alternative to "neurotypical". It just means that you diverge from the norm. So expecting to conform to neurodivergent is to expect to unite with a group of people who have no unity to unite each other with in the first place (other than the unity of not being typical). Neurodiverse folks by definition diverge in different directions from the norm, so by definition they diverge from each other as well (indeed diverge from each other even more than NT differ from other ND folks- just like the tips of tree branches on opposite sides of the same tree are farther apart from each other than either are from the tree's central trunk). Nts are the tree trunk, and the neurodiverse are the tips of the branches.


I hate to ask this but can you explain NT and ND I still don't get how they are different, also can you use an example. Something like NT Bob wants to buy cherries. ND buys apples idk...I have no idea what I'm saying I would just like an explanation and example to make sense of it if that makes sense.


NT is "neurotypical" and ND is "neurodiverse".

You are apparently diagnosed with aspergers (it sez so in your profile) so you are "neurodiverse" (not NT).



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12 Aug 2017, 10:41 am

naturalplastic wrote:
SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
The original post question is meaningless.

"Neurodiverse" means "neuro" "diverse".

If you are that then you "diverge" from the norm. its doesn't mean that you converge onto some second thing that is a single alternative to "neurotypical". It just means that you diverge from the norm. So expecting to conform to neurodivergent is to expect to unite with a group of people who have no unity to unite each other with in the first place (other than the unity of not being typical). Neurodiverse folks by definition diverge in different directions from the norm, so by definition they diverge from each other as well (indeed diverge from each other even more than NT differ from other ND folks- just like the tips of tree branches on opposite sides of the same tree are farther apart from each other than either are from the tree's central trunk). Nts are the tree trunk, and the neurodiverse are the tips of the branches.


I hate to ask this but can you explain NT and ND I still don't get how they are different, also can you use an example. Something like NT Bob wants to buy cherries. ND buys apples idk...I have no idea what I'm saying I would just like an explanation and example to make sense of it if that makes sense.


NT is "neurotypical" and ND is "neurodiverse".

You are apparently diagnosed with aspergers (it sez so in your profile) so you are "neurodiverse" (not NT).


I'm also a moron and didn't read what you said clearly earlier. I thought you were saying something about a third term. Didn't realize you meant ND only as the opposite of NT. Somewhere I read in that something entirely different, woops.