SNL pokes fun at Mark Zuckerberg “Autistic” traits

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29 Apr 2018, 2:33 am

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So homosexuality is a sexual orientation. Autism is a developmental disability, and a serious one at that. A better example would be to make a show about Down's Syndrome children. How well would that go over? Not too well! So why can they get away with making fun of autism as opening as they did on SNL? I have my theories on that, but thought I'd just leave that question open to anybody who'd venture to answer it.

I had the impression that Will and Grace was hated by homoPHOBES and was lauded by homosexuals for making gays look normal.



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29 Apr 2018, 6:00 am

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Trying to get the government to censor other people's laughs needs to stop. If you want censorship, have the guts to try to implement it yourself by force.


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29 Apr 2018, 7:53 am

It's just tv....entertainment. Yes we know that ASD is not the same thing as a sexual orientation. However gays have had to endure stereotypes. Watch Modern Family. I'm crazy about that gay couple on there. Their gayness is not even talked about or joked on. You don't think about it. All you see are two people that care about one another.



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29 Apr 2018, 9:17 am

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Trying to get the government to censor other people's laughs needs to stop. If you want censorship, have the guts to try to implement it yourself by force.


The columnist can say that type of humor needs to stop, or say the government should get involved or it is his first amendment right.
1. The columnist never advocated government involvement
2. Government involvement is most likely unconstitutional
2. If I physically try and force SNL to stop I should be arrested for assault.

What about what goes on with campuses and hate speech laws which force language? What is going on are a series of failures by authorities to protect constantutionally guarenteed free speech.


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29 Apr 2018, 9:23 am

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Awwww...SNL made fun of Zuckerburg's autistic-like traits.

I am sure that poor Zuckerburg is using a pile of his ten thousand dollar bills as Kleenexes to wipe his tears, and blow his nose on while he cries about it!... right now as we speak! :lol:

Zuckerburg is a big target. So he is fair game to be shot at.


So, just to state the obvious, Zuckerburg isn’t the only target of this SNL skit. All autistics are. Have you even SEEN the skit?


It anything it is more making fun of Tourett’s which is a co morbid of autism than autism itself.


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29 Apr 2018, 12:54 pm

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It's just tv....entertainment. Yes we know that ASD is not the same thing as a sexual orientation. However gays have had to endure stereotypes. Watch Modern Family. I'm crazy about that gay couple on there. Their gayness is not even talked about or joked on. You don't think about it. All you see are two people that care about one another.
I love Modern Family and I think the gay couple is really a cute couple.


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29 Apr 2018, 12:56 pm

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So homosexuality is a sexual orientation. Autism is a developmental disability, and a serious one at that. A better example would be to make a show about Down's Syndrome children. How well would that go over? Not too well! So why can they get away with making fun of autism as opening as they did on SNL? I have my theories on that, but thought I'd just leave that question open to anybody who'd venture to answer it.

I had the impression that Will and Grace was hated by homoPHOBES and was lauded by homosexuals for making gays look normal.

Other than finding it a little graphic for my taste sometimes, I think it's pretty funny


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29 Apr 2018, 12:59 pm

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So homosexuality is a sexual orientation. Autism is a developmental disability, and a serious one at that. A better example would be to make a show about Down's Syndrome children. How well would that go over? Not too well! So why can they get away with making fun of autism as opening as they did on SNL? I have my theories on that, but thought I'd just leave that question open to anybody who'd venture to answer it.
I know what you mean. I was just curious about how the gay community views the shows that's all. I wasn't comparing the two types of people to each other. What we were talking about just struck my curiosity and I did not feel it was worth starting a new thread.


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29 Apr 2018, 3:24 pm

Skibum, Modern Family couple is very devoted. I'm a conservative Christian yet I can't help but like those two guys.



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30 Apr 2018, 4:46 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The columnist can say that type of humor needs to stop, or say the government should get involved or it is his first amendment right.


And I can say trying to get the government to censor other people’s laughs needs to stop. And people can and will keep making that type of humor.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
1. The columnist never advocated government involvement


So how else does he think he can make that type of humor stop?

ASPartOfMe wrote:
2. Government involvement is most likely unconstitutional


Yet another reason why he won’t get his way.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
2. If I physically try and force SNL to stop I should be arrested for assault.


I think it’s fundamentably debatabe whether you should be arrested. You might be arrested, and that’s a risk everyone has to take when they decide to take the law into their own hands to censor something that offends them. But they do it all the time anyway, at least if they feel confident in their physical ability to overpower the offender.

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What about what goes on with campuses and hate speech laws which force language? What is going on are a series of failures by authorities to protect constantutionally guarenteed free speech.


So? How does that disprove my point?


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30 Apr 2018, 7:04 am

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With all due respect for the viewpoint expressed above, I feel we should all laugh at ourselves, all the time. And by "we" I mean, males, females, fat people, thin people, mentally ill people, mentally stable people, children, old folks, wealthy people, broke people. Everyone.

I know that for me, it has been the key to emotional wellness.


Yeah, but we're not laughing at ourselves. Instead, a bunch of supposedly enlightened liberals are making fun of us (I'm liberal, so not trying to make a political statement here). They are basically taking our autistic traits, stamping a negative label on them, and then using it as a means to make their audience laugh. What's worse, it obviously worked. And just as evidence that I can laugh at myself, I watch the Big Bang Theory and enjoy the Sheldon character, but then I need to ask myself if I just laugh because its well done compared to the SNL skit. I don't think so, I think the SNL skit was genuinely mean. They wouldn't make fun of black people like that (Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood made fun of black CULTURE and also white CULTURE), as an example.

Yeah, I thought that skit was in poor taste and I can't believe there wasn't more of an uproar about it.


What else would you expect? All ideology is spastic , cause you know all shades have good ideas , better to be a "radical centrist "


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30 Apr 2018, 7:05 am

How can we laugh at ourselves when we have no sense of humour to begin with ?


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30 Apr 2018, 7:06 am

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AspieSingleDad wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
With all due respect for the viewpoint expressed above, I feel we should all laugh at ourselves, all the time. And by "we" I mean, males, females, fat people, thin people, mentally ill people, mentally stable people, children, old folks, wealthy people, broke people. Everyone.

I know that for me, it has been the key to emotional wellness.


Yeah, but we're not laughing at ourselves. Instead, a bunch of supposedly enlightened liberals are making fun of us (I'm liberal, so not trying to make a political statement here). They are basically taking our autistic traits, stamping a negative label on them, and then using it as a means to make their audience laugh. What's worse, it obviously worked. And just as evidence that I can laugh at myself, I watch the Big Bang Theory and enjoy the Sheldon character, but then I need to ask myself if I just laugh because its well done compared to the SNL skit. I don't think so, I think the SNL skit was genuinely mean. They wouldn't make fun of black people like that (Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood made fun of black CULTURE and also white CULTURE), as an example.

Yeah, I thought that skit was in poor taste and I can't believe there wasn't more of an uproar about it.


What else would you expect? All ideology is spastic , cause you know all shades have good ideas , better to be a "radical centrist "



No offense I am sure you mean well by being a liberal .


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30 Apr 2018, 7:54 am

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The columnist can say that type of humor needs to stop, or say the government should get involved or it is his first amendment right.


And I can say trying to get the government to censor other people’s laughs needs to stop. And people can and will keep making that type of humor.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
1. The columnist never advocated government involvement


So how else does he think he can make that type of humor stop?
You have to ask him

ASPartOfMe wrote:
2. Government involvement is most likely unconstitutional


Yet another reason why he won’t get his way.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
2. If I physically try and force SNL to stop I should be arrested for assault.


I think it’s fundamentably debatabe whether you should be arrested. You might be arrested, and that’s a risk everyone has to take when they decide to take the law into their own hands to censor something that offends them. But they do it all the time anyway, at least if they feel confident in their physical ability to overpower the offender.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
What about what goes on with campuses and hate speech laws which force language? What is going on are a series of failures by authorities to protect constantutionally guarenteed free speech.


So? How does that disprove my point?


We need to
1. Elect people that understand and are willing to enforce the right of free speech and free expression. That means people must and should consistently face legal consequences if they violently try to supress opinion.
2. We need to start teaching civics in schools again.
3. We need to start teaching the concept of respect of people. Because you can does not mean you should. Right now people are either super politically correct or offensive just to brag about how politically incorrect they are.
I do not know if the current trends can be reversed but if it is going to get better it is going to take a lot of time and get worse before it gets better.


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30 Apr 2018, 10:03 am

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You have to ask him


Not really. It was a rhetorical question. People will simply not stop laughing at the expense of whomever they want, unless it’s someone they personally fear.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
1. Elect people that understand and are willing to enforce the right of free speech and free expression. That means people must and should consistently face legal consequences if they violently try to supress opinion.


I think most people will never forgo the option of reäcting with physical violence to speech they don’t like. Free speech, but not without consequences, and the consequences may be that someone beats the hell out of you. If the government steps in and arrests them for their violence, well, that’ll only mean they’re showing even more courage by beating you up anyway, and they’ll thus be venerated as heroes in the fight for true freedom, which includes the freedom to settle matters by private force alone.

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2. We need to start teaching civics in schools again.


That’ll lead most people to rebel even more against civics whenever they can get away with it. Ironically, we autistics would probably be about the only people who benefitted from it, since we have a hard time learning what we’re not taught formally. This might even mean everyone else now has yet another reason to despise us.

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3. We need to start teaching the concept of respect of people. Because you can does not mean you should. Right now people are either super politically correct or offensive just to brag about how politically incorrect they are.
I do not know if the current trends can be reversed but if it is going to get better it is going to take a lot of time and get worse before it gets better.


I’m sure most people are well aware what respect is—they just know whom they need to respect and whom they can afford to abuse, and act accordingly.


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30 Apr 2018, 1:58 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
You have to ask him


Not really. It was a rhetorical question. People will simply not stop laughing at the expense of whomever they want, unless it’s someone they personally fear.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
1. Elect people that understand and are willing to enforce the right of free speech and free expression. That means people must and should consistently face legal consequences if they violently try to supress opinion.


I think most people will never forgo the option of reäcting with physical violence to speech they don’t like. Free speech, but not without consequences, and the consequences may be that someone beats the hell out of you. If the government steps in and arrests them for their violence, well, that’ll only mean they’re showing even more courage by beating you up anyway, and they’ll thus be venerated as heroes in the fight for true freedom, which includes the freedom to settle matters by private force alone.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
2. We need to start teaching civics in schools again.


That’ll lead most people to rebel even more against civics whenever they can get away with it. Ironically, we autistics would probably be about the only people who benefitted from it, since we have a hard time learning what we’re not taught formally. This might even mean everyone else now has yet another reason to despise us.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
3. We need to start teaching the concept of respect of people. Because you can does not mean you should. Right now people are either super politically correct or offensive just to brag about how politically incorrect they are.
I do not know if the current trends can be reversed but if it is going to get better it is going to take a lot of time and get worse before it gets better.


I’m sure most people are well aware what respect is—they just know whom they need to respect and whom they can afford to abuse, and act accordingly.


I think most people if they know what respect is it is the lowest priority for them and this has changed to a large degree. It could change back maybe.

How are people going to be in favor of freedom of speech and expression if they do not know what is and why it came to be because they were never taught?.

Autistics do benefit from civics and respect for freedom of speech and expression because we are different but we are not the only ones. Every mainstream idea was at one time an outlier. Freedom of expression can help good outlier ideas become accepted. Knowlege of what freedom of speech and expression is and the acceptence of the idea that everything that offends you need not be shut down by any means neccessary forces you to restrain yourself. This makes one a less fragile and a more mature person. It may help one understand while the other person is mostly wrong he or she might have a good idea or two, god forbid. That would make politics less polarizing.

If the authorities actualy protect freedom of expression from the shut it down people, people will be less afraid to express ideas. Teaching and protecting freedom of expression might make martyrs of a few but that is not so different from now where the blowhards are the heroes.

Like I said in the other post there is a good chance am just an old guy whose quaint ideas have come and are long gone and are never coming back. But while I am still here and there is some freedom of speech left. I am going to advocate for them because I know that these things are possible because I lived in a time while far from perfect where political disagreement meant political disagreement not that the other person was evil, a moron, or brainwashed. People that were on opposite sides politically were good friends. This was not uncommon, imagine that. We were taught civics, coincedence?. I think not.


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