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21 May 2018, 4:49 pm

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I didn't say "1:1." I said "rather close to 1:1."

I also stated I got my "sample" from the ratio between male and female members of WP.

But I find it impossible to conceive that in any sample of 100 people with AS, that there are 100 men with AS, but only 10 women with AS.

Or that there are 10,000 men with AS to every 1,000 women with AS.

Read the report. Semantics, you are still wrong


And yet maybe the report is wrong. The main question in this thread was that girls and other minority groups may be under diagnosed. How can the report represent an accurate figure if this is the case? :?


Stampy, you are one smart young woman! Citation of one study does not reality make. :D


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21 May 2018, 4:52 pm

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Also, is society´s tolerance to "asperger" behaviour (difficult to define) increasing or decreasing?


the way I see it is this:
Society should give tolerance and compassion toward people even if they don't understand the "why's".
The "why's" are always gonna be different, and there's 1000's different things that could be wrong with a person, aside from Asperger's, maybe they had a bad day or something else is wrong which is beyond our ability to 'diagnose'... Maybe it's the whole system is f-ed, making robots out of people (please tell me that you atleast agree this much)..

And since people's mental capacity to understand things is also limited, I think best way is therefore just to be careful when approaching everyone, and be kind to one another regardless of whether we understand or not... But it's challenging, I know that too... It's not easy for them, it's not easy for us, I think at least we should try.


^^^^^^^^^ very wise and a good practice to have.


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21 May 2018, 5:03 pm

blazingstar wrote:
StampySquiddyFan wrote:
redbrick1 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I didn't say "1:1." I said "rather close to 1:1."

I also stated I got my "sample" from the ratio between male and female members of WP.

But I find it impossible to conceive that in any sample of 100 people with AS, that there are 100 men with AS, but only 10 women with AS.

Or that there are 10,000 men with AS to every 1,000 women with AS.

Read the report. Semantics, you are still wrong


And yet maybe the report is wrong. The main question in this thread was that girls and other minority groups may be under diagnosed. How can the report represent an accurate figure if this is the case? :?


Stampy, you are one smart young woman! Citation of one study does not reality make. :D

How many studies would it take? Or does it in this case does it matter?



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21 May 2018, 5:07 pm

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Since there is an acute awareness of how underdiagnosed women are, I would be interested to know the results of similar studies five years from now.

One thing to consider: the incidence of autism itself, before the DSM-IV, about 1990, was over 1,000 - 1. Now it is about 59 - 1. By and large, this was caused by a broadening of the diagnostic criteria, and more awareness of the subtlety of the Spectrum.

The female rate presently is about the same as the overall rate in about 2005. It is 157 to 1 presently.

No, women are not a minority---obviously. In the vast majority of instances, the male-female or female-male ratio is less than 1.1 to 1.

There are some states in the US which have slightly more females than males. In other states, the reverse is true.

It is pissible it will change. But there are stats out there that bore out the same issue:
Boys are classified at a higher rate than girls for other learning disorders including Emotional disturbance, specific learning disability ans non verbal learning disability.
So is it the way we evaluate or the way we educate? See the reason to have there labels is because the student shows a 'discrepancy ' therefore maybe the way we educate boys should be different



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21 May 2018, 5:08 pm

It's possible that we should evaluate how we educate boys.



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21 May 2018, 8:02 pm

blazingstar wrote:
StampySquiddyFan wrote:
redbrick1 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I didn't say "1:1." I said "rather close to 1:1."

I also stated I got my "sample" from the ratio between male and female members of WP.

But I find it impossible to conceive that in any sample of 100 people with AS, that there are 100 men with AS, but only 10 women with AS.

Or that there are 10,000 men with AS to every 1,000 women with AS.

Read the report. Semantics, you are still wrong


And yet maybe the report is wrong. The main question in this thread was that girls and other minority groups may be under diagnosed. How can the report represent an accurate figure if this is the case? :?


Stampy, you are one smart young woman! Citation of one study does not reality make. :D


Danke schön :D .


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21 May 2018, 8:04 pm

Even though English is a Germanic language, German is one of the hardest languages to learn.

Are you fluent in German, Stampy?



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21 May 2018, 8:06 pm

^^^Not yet. I have only taken one year so far. I hope to be fluent by the end of high school. :D


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21 May 2018, 8:07 pm

What made you take German?

It's amazing that they have German in a middle school.



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21 May 2018, 8:10 pm

Well, it seemed like an interesting language (not your everyday type of thing) and I do have some German ancestry. My grandfather immigrated from Germany when he was about 5, I think.

I’m glad they had it available- now I get a bit of a head start :D .


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21 May 2018, 8:13 pm

Some of the great violinists and classical composers are German, too.....



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21 May 2018, 8:14 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
What made you take German?

It's amazing that they have German in a middle school.

Kraftie, she is in high school a freshman i believe



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21 May 2018, 8:18 pm

Shows what I know



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21 May 2018, 8:21 pm

I be in middle school still, though not for long.


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21 May 2018, 8:35 pm

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I be in middle school still, though not for long.

Hope your JHS days were good, mine were awful, high school was better.



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21 May 2018, 8:36 pm

Mine sucked---big time!

I was almost carted off to a group home when I was 13.