When you know you're probably not autistic
Gallia wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Gallia wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Gallia wrote:
well i haven't been diagnosed yet and am scared the doctors will say i am not cos i feel like i've embraced AS as part of my identity and it makes sense to me. it's taking so long to get the diagnosis - the NHS is super slow -.-
Is the NHS super slow Galia? I feel the same. Going for my second evaluation on the 28th
yeh ive had a referral back in April and still waiting for the appointment with a specialist to do the diagnosis. i'm in limbo atm because the doctor says it will take from 6 months to 1 year unless i'm in a life threatening situation.
I imagine that there will be a few appointments. I had my first one on the 1st this month, it took about 4 hours.
how was it?
Some of the tests are quite odd and overall the experience was intense. There were a couple of short breaks where I wandered around in the car park and felt pretty bonkers. I'm looking forward to part 2, though I have no idea what to expect.
domineekee wrote:
Some of the tests are quite odd and overall the experience was intense. There were a couple of short breaks where I wandered around in the car park and felt pretty bonkers. I'm looking forward to part 2, though I have no idea what to expect.
i see.. do you think the tests are done well / reliable?
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Gallia wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Some of the tests are quite odd and overall the experience was intense. There were a couple of short breaks where I wandered around in the car park and felt pretty bonkers. I'm looking forward to part 2, though I have no idea what to expect.
i see.. do you think the tests are done well / reliable?
I would say yes, it's not a web quiz, it's pretty esoteric

nephets wrote:
You may well be autistic. I would certainly recommend a diagnosis. Have you taken any of the online tests? I am afraid that you cannot pick out autism from someone's writing. OCD is very common with ASD and bothers me more than the ASD does. Hypersensitivity is also very common with ASD. Social skills in female Aspies tend I suspect to be better than for male Aspies, which causes problems for diagnosing female Aspies, so simply being able to talk to someone does not remove you from the spectrum. I tend to think that ASD, Aspergers, OCD and Hypersensitivity, along with numerous other disorders are actually all facets of the same syndrome. I think we divide ourselves a little too much and, of course, for Clinicians there can be money in a new syndrome.
Yeah, I have taken some of the online tests. Generally I either get "borderline indication" or "higher autistic traits than average, but below diagnostic threshold".
I took the RAADS-R test and got just above threshold on most of the categories (only by a few points) except for the sensory/motor section which I scored a lot higher than the threshold on.
Plus, I have also attempted this test from the perspective of some of the characters I have in my stories (I find taking personality tests can help me think about certain aspects of the character that I may have otherwise never considered) and 3/5 characters scored above threshold, whereas 2/5 were below. The Aspie quiz usually says that I am closer to neurotypical, but on occasion it has said that I have both equal aspie and neurotypical traits. One time my graph looked like a bowtie, and another a square.



nephets wrote:
Personally, I would rather not see people who are sure they are NT on here. This is, after all, supposed to be something of a sanctuary for us and Lords knows we need one. I would personally only except those who have to live with us from that prohibition. They need all the advice they can get and we can be of help.
I don't mind it, so long as people are respectful.

kraftiekortie wrote:
You're most welcome here, LostDragon. And FireMonkey as well.
Even if you're not autistic, you both identify with people with autism. And you certainly have traits of autism.
Even if you're not autistic, you both identify with people with autism. And you certainly have traits of autism.
Zachwashere wrote:
Many of us on WP are non-autistic and either identify with some of the traits found on the spectrum(possibly Broader Autism Phenotype, as previously stated by BeaArthur?), or have a loved one/friend who is autistic and wish understand and support them better. It just serves to make the community here more diverse and better overall. You are most welcome here, LostDragon!
Thank you.

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HistoryGal wrote:
I understand how nephet feels. Could there be a section at wp where NTs are not allowed?
The world is their oyster. Why not have an area where we can talk freely without NTs?
The world is their oyster. Why not have an area where we can talk freely without NTs?
Most of the time I do not need an Autistic safe space and I think that is a good thing if NT's read what we are really thinking about and dealing with instead of media stereotypes.
But there are times I do not want to deal with the misconceptions and misunderstandings that come from the neurological difference especially when I have been dealing with them for 6 decades. And of course, there are other autistics who for lack of a better word are in a much more "fragile" state then I am. So while I think it is a good idea in theory, in practice how would you enforce an NT section ban?
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lol im watching too much got atm and i'm reading this thread as john snow vs the dead people vs the people of the north vs wildlings.
wildlings = NTs "invaders" trying to break into WP. they are half breed NTs and aspergians.
people of the north = conservative aspergians - don't want nothing to do with the NTs / animosity is felt
john snow = he be trying to keep the peace "we are all in this together" against
against...
the dead people = the real NTs. pure breed. will bully anyone who is different.
is this too far off?
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naturalplastic wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
And you still hang around anyway. For me social factors are a major issue, but of course it takes a lot more than that to be on the spectrum.
It's pretty obvious to anyone who reads your posts that you're not NT. So right there you fit in here on WP. You might be something other than autistic, or aspie, but NT is not it. So don't worry. And even if you were NT you still belong here. So don't worry about it.
I just wonder whether it's a delusional obsession. I 've become quite fixated on ASD/NVLD/Dyspraxia/Learning difficulty.
At one point I was really into thinking I wanted a sex change. The feeling gradually lessened though. Was that also a delusional obsession that faded as I got less mentally ill?/ a passing autistic fixation?/ or was the lessened feeling a psychological defence mechanism to the fact that a sex change was never on the cards due to my psychiatric illness?
My sister has said she always thought I was most likely dyspraxic. I asked her to do the RAADS-R based on what she knew of me.

I scored myself on average in the mid 140s . More for language 15-9 and less for social relatedness 69.6- 86.0, less for sensory motor 27.3- 35 and about the same for circumscribed interests 32.4- 33.
As you can see the one that really stands out is social relatedness.
firemonkey wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
And you still hang around anyway. For me social factors are a major issue, but of course it takes a lot more than that to be on the spectrum.
It's pretty obvious to anyone who reads your posts that you're not NT. So right there you fit in here on WP. You might be something other than autistic, or aspie, but NT is not it. So don't worry. And even if you were NT you still belong here. So don't worry about it.
I just wonder whether it's a delusional obsession. I 've become quite fixated on ASD/NVLD/Dyspraxia/Learning difficulty.
At one point I was really into thinking I wanted a sex change. The feeling gradually lessened though. Was that also a delusional obsession that faded as I got less mentally ill?/ a passing autistic fixation?/ or was the lessened feeling a psychological defence mechanism to the fact that a sex change was never on the cards due to my psychiatric illness?
My sister has said she always thought I was most likely dyspraxic. I asked her to do the RAADS-R based on what she knew of me.

I scored myself on average in the mid 140s . More for language 15-9 and less for social relatedness 69.6- 86.0, less for sensory motor 27.3- 35 and about the same for circumscribed interests 32.4- 33.
As you can see the one that really stands out is social relatedness.
Not sure what all of that means from that test. But it looks like it means that you are impaired in the realm of social relatedness. If so then that means you have a lot in common with auties and aspies.
I suppose that you are too poor, or too far down on the list of the UK Nat. Health system, to get yourself tested any time soon. It would be nice if you could just get a thorough official test ...just to set your mind at rest.
But it sounds like you obsess about stuff a lot. Including obsessing about your obsessions. Lol! Maybe you're OCD.
naturalplastic wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
And you still hang around anyway. For me social factors are a major issue, but of course it takes a lot more than that to be on the spectrum.
It's pretty obvious to anyone who reads your posts that you're not NT. So right there you fit in here on WP. You might be something other than autistic, or aspie, but NT is not it. So don't worry. And even if you were NT you still belong here. So don't worry about it.
I just wonder whether it's a delusional obsession. I 've become quite fixated on ASD/NVLD/Dyspraxia/Learning difficulty.
At one point I was really into thinking I wanted a sex change. The feeling gradually lessened though. Was that also a delusional obsession that faded as I got less mentally ill?/ a passing autistic fixation?/ or was the lessened feeling a psychological defence mechanism to the fact that a sex change was never on the cards due to my psychiatric illness?
My sister has said she always thought I was most likely dyspraxic. I asked her to do the RAADS-R based on what she knew of me.

I scored myself on average in the mid 140s . More for language 15-9 and less for social relatedness 69.6- 86.0, less for sensory motor 27.3- 35 and about the same for circumscribed interests 32.4- 33.
As you can see the one that really stands out is social relatedness.
Not sure what all of that means from that test. But it looks like it means that you are impaired in the realm of social relatedness. If so then that means you have a lot in common with auties and aspies.
I suppose that you are too poor, or too far down on the list of the UK Nat. Health system, to get yourself tested any time soon. It would be nice if you could just get a thorough official test ...just to set your mind at rest.
But it sounds like you obsess about stuff a lot. Including obsessing about your obsessions. Lol! Maybe you're OCD.
I've done online tests for OCD. They always come up negative. Re the testing - the assessment site in my county only deals with ASD and it's my belief I fit NVLD better (NVLD is scarcely recognised in the UK) . I'm scared that a negative ASD assessment would cement the current erroneous and ignorant belief that everything is just to do with my psychiatric diagnosis. If I had been born in the 1990s ,instead of the late 50s, with more recognition of developmental and learning difficulties red flags would almost definitely have been raised in my childhood. Unfortunately due to the myopic nature of mental health professionals it's very difficult for them to see outside your psychiatric diagnosis once you are labelled as mentally ill.
HistoryGal wrote:
I understand how nephet feels. Could there be a section at wp where NTs are not allowed?
The world is their oyster. Why not have an area where we can talk freely without NTs?
The world is their oyster. Why not have an area where we can talk freely without NTs?
Why not?
Why have it?
It would serve no purpose to have such a thing.
The whole of WP is already a sanctuary where we all can speak freely. Such a subforum would not add ANY amount of freedom in speech.
Been here for years, and from my experience: if you ever get bullied, judged, or intimidated, by anyone here...guess what! ...it ALWAYS by a fellow autie/aspie. NEVER by a neurotypical.
There have been a number of individuals who give judgmental tongue lashings. They have always been officially dxd autism spectrum folks. Never by any of the few NTs who loiter here. There was one possible exception. One occasion when a NT lady screamed at aspie guy once.
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