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30 Jun 2018, 11:31 am

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Has anyone ever treated you like you were mentally insane because of your Autism? ...
Naw, just stupid, like I didn't know what I am talking about.

The next time I say something like, "Invading Iraq is going to put America into another quagmire just like Vietnam", maybe they should consider my words as having validity.


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30 Jun 2018, 11:36 am

When I was still in college, there was a biweekly support group for autistics on campus. I attended once and found what I feared--it was run by an NT who was just brimming with ways we could act like NTs and was just so ready to treat us like the ret*d children he thought us to be. So I and most of the people there stopped going, and simply met informally in the library or student union to discuss our issues.


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30 Jun 2018, 11:44 am

Fnord wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Has anyone ever treated you like you were mentally insane because of your Autism? ...
Naw, just stupid, like I didn't know what I am talking about.

The next time I say something like, "Invading Iraq is going to put America into another quagmire just like Vietnam", maybe they should consider my words as having validity.

High five, good buddy. These words came out of my mouth too! (Actually, a little briefer: "This'll be another Vietnam.")


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30 Jun 2018, 11:47 am

BeaArthur wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Has anyone ever treated you like you were mentally insane because of your Autism? ...
Naw, just stupid, like I didn't know what I am talking about. The next time I say something like, "Invading Iraq is going to put America into another quagmire just like Vietnam", maybe they should consider my words as having validity.
High five, good buddy. These words came out of my mouth too! (Actually, a little briefer: "This'll be another Vietnam.")
Maybe I should forgo the verbosity and the archaic, polysyllabic words ... ?


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30 Jun 2018, 11:57 am

People often see "different" and classify it incorrectly.

A good example of this is my physical vs. my mental disability. OK I have autism and depression, but I am pretty darn smart or at least used to be before I got old. (Another "different" state that often gets one treated like an idiot or a child.) But for the past 10 years or longer, I have been unable to walk without an assistive device.

So I go into a restaurant using either a walker or a scooter, due to my spinal lesion. Waiter falls all over himself seating us, then READS THE MENU to me at a slow tempo. I said "I KNOW how to READ."

Later I asked him where the restroom was. It looks like he is planning to escort me, so I said - in a sarcastic tone that he probably missed - "I see it, I can take it from here."

When I got back to the table, my amused husband said "you should have told him you need him to wipe your butt afterward, I bet he would have fallen for it." I said I was thinking the same thing!

My point is, people get nervous and stupid when they see something that they think requires some special response but they don't know what the correct response is. I can't count the number of times I have asked people to NOT hold the door for me, and sometimes I have to tell them two or three times. They can see a disability and assume that means you are deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid, all rolled up into one. I have also had people confuse mental illness and mental retardation. When I mentioned I was studying mental illness, they said "Oh yes, I have a nephew with Down's syndrome." Not the same thing at all!


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30 Jun 2018, 12:05 pm

Fnord wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Has anyone ever treated you like you were mentally insane because of your Autism? ...
Naw, just stupid, like I didn't know what I am talking about. The next time I say something like, "Invading Iraq is going to put America into another quagmire just like Vietnam", maybe they should consider my words as having validity.
High five, good buddy. These words came out of my mouth too! (Actually, a little briefer: "This'll be another Vietnam.")
Maybe I should forgo the verbosity and the archaic, polysyllabic words ... ?

Depends on whether you want to be understood. "Invading" is not particularly archaic, but "quagmire" may be beyond the vocabulary boundaries of your average listener.


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30 Jun 2018, 12:09 pm

I personally see a huge difference in being respectful and caring or treating someone like an idiot or child and not taking them seriously. Pride is a huge factor for people of course and understandable but everyone should at least see the good intentions, even if undesirable by the person in question.


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30 Jun 2018, 12:17 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
.... "quagmire" may be beyond the vocabulary boundaries of your average listener.
Then they need bigger vocabules! ;)


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04 Jul 2018, 4:41 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:
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Has anyone ever treated you like you were mentally insane because of your Autism? My parents did this in my late teens, it really angers me looking back on it.


The problem is we defy easy classification. I had a so called school social worker who I now look back on and realize he didn't have a clue about Aspergers who told my parents he thought I was schitzoid.

One thing I hate--my brain is not wired up for being a good speller, and I have always struggled with this. I hate the fact that people will view lack of spelling ability as the same as being stupid and or uneducated.


I am the same with spelling, communication in general. In college I knew all the answers before I even started going there but had no idea how to start an essay. I coasted through school my strengths and weaknesses never addressed.



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06 Jul 2018, 12:33 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Has anyone ever treated you like you were mentally insane because of your Autism? My parents did this in my late teens, it really angers me looking back on it.


The problem is we defy easy classification. I had a so called school social worker who I now look back on and realize he didn't have a clue about Aspergers who told my parents he thought I was schitzoid.

One thing I hate--my brain is not wired up for being a good speller, and I have always struggled with this. I hate the fact that people will view lack of spelling ability as the same as being stupid and or uneducated.


I am the same with spelling, communication in general. In college I knew all the answers before I even started going there but had no idea how to start an essay. I coasted through school my strengths and weaknesses never addressed.


For me, public speaking is a hyper developed skill. Its really weird because I'm normally quiet and nonsocial. But I've been told that I am excellent at public speaking, communicating things clearly and commanding an audience.


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