What is the source of depression in people with autism?

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10 Jul 2018, 7:14 pm

Agree with the above.

I guess in addition despite its bad reputation as people many do want to but can't fit in.

That autism is a thing that is with you 24/7 and it is a lifelong condition.


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11 Jul 2018, 5:47 am

Our perception of ourselves and others is a key player in depression.

When we are low we see the world differently and often more negatively and this keeps us down.

The world can suddenly seem a very scary place.

Then if anxiety raises it's ugly head then we are held in an even more complex vault.

I often wonder what resources guard against depression and where does the resilience come from in people who seem almost immune from mental health issues.

So I study well-being as well as ill-health and try to make sense of our human vulnerabilities.



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11 Jul 2018, 7:07 am

I fell into a bad psychotic depression after me & my 1st girlfriend broke up. She was the 1st person I felt I could really relate to & understood me. We had some weird things in common like dyslexia, ADHD & OCD. We were best friends before she told me she liked me. I was probably depressed before we broke up & didn't realize it which contributed to problems within our relationship. My parents were on my back about getting a job. I was putting in apps at every place I could think of that might of had a job I could do which wasn't a whole lot due to being disabled. My parents were on my back about how I wasn't working because I was lazy & then when I told em I was trying to find a job, they got on my back about not going to college. I struggled in skewl aLOT due to dyslexia & other related learning disabilities. I had tried taking a computer repair corse but barely understood any of it so I decided that wasn't the job direction for me. it cost my parents abit of money & took abit of time that I guess we all felt after could of been used for other things.


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11 Jul 2018, 2:18 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
Secondarily, the effect of being blamed, bullied, and tormented, even by close relatives and other important figures in our lives, interferes with personality development so the autistic person can never develop a healthy sense of self, further increasing the number of adverse events.



This definitely for me. Also, even with well-intentioned-non-bullying people, I can get depressed because I want so much to connect but they never seem to get me, or they look through me to talk about surface things I don't care about and I always end up feeling alone.



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11 Jul 2018, 2:33 pm

trouble with relationships. trouble making friends. sensory overload. feeling/ being treated like an alien. :alien:
also i should add - often bullied.

there are perks too, of course. I think thinking outside the box, being deeply in touch with oneself and having a busy and colourful mental universe can [in part] make up for other "lacks". I also think a lot of people go through life feeling empty, bored and re enacting societal clichés. it seems to me, aspies have a great deal of internal resilience thanks to their curiosity and interests.


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11 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm

For me it´s from boredom. I am so easily unstimulated that I get depressed and in worse case angry.


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11 Jul 2018, 3:23 pm

alpacka wrote:
For me it´s from boredom. I am so easily unstimulated that I get depressed and in worse case angry.


ahah i guess i was talking for myself then ^^


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11 Jul 2018, 3:25 pm

alpacka wrote:
For me it´s from boredom. I am so easily unstimulated that I get depressed and in worse case angry.

I have an aspie friend who suffers from boredom.
We figured it was due to his being enneagram 7: http://9types.com/descr/7/


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11 Jul 2018, 3:48 pm

One word: LONELINESS.


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11 Jul 2018, 4:47 pm

I'm someone who struggles with severe depression for a long time and I don't know what actually depresses me, but I've been having episodes lately and the thoughts revolve around fear of failure, fear of losing financial stability, hating having to work beyond an age where my very flesh will peel off, lack of freedom to pursue whatever makes me happy.... then it extends to a world that's absurd and seemingly beyond repair, too many selfish people... overall a world in which I don't want to live in.

Then I look at the past and I remember how I was naive, gullible, clumsy, taken advantage of... the many regrettable mistakes and the amount of people to whom I'd say I'm sorry... but then I remember many of those people were never properly kind to me themselves. I remember all the ignorance, hatred, prejudice, isolation...

So, it's a very dark place and it gets darker and darker.



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12 Jul 2018, 6:22 am

BeaArthur wrote:
I know we won't be able to answer the question here, but I'd like to know everybody's thoughts and theories.

Personally, I think depression in autistic people is MOSTLY caused by "learned helplessness," similar to Martin Seligmann's depressive dogs. To not be able to get away from a noxious situation, to not be able to get any sympathy for problems, to not be able to communicate both expressively and receptively, could be the stressor similar to a shock in an electrified cage as per the Seligmann theory.

Secondarily, the effect of being blamed, bullied, and tormented, even by close relatives and other important figures in our lives, interferes with personality development so the autistic person can never develop a healthy sense of self, further increasing the number of adverse events.

So these kinds of causes, I suggest, are more prominent as causes of co-morbid depression, than is a biological (genetic) contribution.

The above synopsis yields testable hypotheses that might give more productive mental health treatment to prevent or reduce depression in autistics.

What does anybody think?


Being blamed, bullied and tormented was definitely a number one issue for me and all of that came from my own family too. As a result I am alienated from most of them and that has being a huge source of depression for me.

Another big one is not having my special needs met, whatever they are. Whether it's having things in a certain place or procedures proceeding in an exact way or NTs acting in a very negative and overly aggressive manner. All of those things cause a tremendous amount of anxiety which turns to depression over a long period of time. So to sum up, breaks from routines are a crazy source of depression for me.


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12 Jul 2018, 7:37 am

When all my
coping skills and
workarounds and
(((avoidances)))
fail
and the stressorssss
remain staring at me,
my insides shut
down.
No happy or sad or
success or failure
and barely any
me.



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12 Jul 2018, 9:51 am

I get depression because I think about things too much. I've always compared my life to everyone else's. And I seem to have a fear of not having the same experiences others have had. I've never been clubbing, never drank, never been away on holiday with friends, and never had a proper social life when I was younger. It's always got to me. And I've always blamed my Asperger's for it.

People just tell me to stop being jealous and that I cannot control other people's lives.


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12 Jul 2018, 10:06 am

Mostly, other people. With or without autism. Sartre got it right, halfway: hell is other people. The kicker is, heaven can be, too, though it's mostly cats.


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12 Jul 2018, 10:07 am

I feel like----if a cat gets along with a dog, and vice versa, that there's harmony in the house.



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12 Jul 2018, 12:56 pm

Bullies, not being believed or listened too. Constantly being belittled and degraded. Never having my voice matter


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