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29 Jul 2018, 9:12 pm

I can see how this would be a contentious topic. For those that have been on WP for a very long time, do you recall any situations where a self-diagnosed member got tested and found out they were not on the spectrum? What were their issues found to be? I would like to read prior posts on the subject if there are links, etc I could search. Any help would be appreciated in that regard.



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29 Jul 2018, 9:22 pm

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^Somebody is bitter, same old goldfish21 as he ever was. Wonderful to see the same crap over and over. I ignored this place for nearly 3 years; dates change, people don't


Yep over and over, round and round. Same old thing under a false premise. Goldfish with his diet act, just like ASS-P with his uni act. Thread after thread, year after year.



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29 Jul 2018, 9:27 pm

EzraS wrote:
RichardJ wrote:
^Somebody is bitter, same old goldfish21 as he ever was. Wonderful to see the same crap over and over. I ignored this place for nearly 3 years; dates change, people don't


Yep over and over, round and round. Same old thing under a false premise. Goldfish with his diet act, just like ASS-P with his uni act. Thread after thread, year after year.


What false premise? :?
What act? :?

I told you; I’m telling you the truth of my experiences & I am my authentic self here like any of the rest of you, not some forum character actor.


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29 Jul 2018, 9:53 pm

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How do I know if I am an Aspie without an official diagnosis? The short answer is "if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". The long answer is here. The Aspie Code



Probably, but not definitely. In some cases definitely officially are a requirement.

I certainly couldn't have attended the schools I did without definitely officially. And on top of the original definite official diagnosis, there was annual testing to reaffirm.

Also that regular testing lead to them knowing that I had progressed from level 3 to level 2. And many other things that affected my occupational therapy and teaching methods used. What things were prescribed to me, what things were tested out etc.

I'm alright with people using the duck analogy and the aspie code et al on themselves for their own personal satisfaction. But those things are purely anecdotal suppositions of an unqualified layperson.



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29 Jul 2018, 10:08 pm

I guess what this all boils down to is that some of us are competently & confidently self aware of our diagnoses, and others are clueless, or oblivious, until they’re told by some other human.


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29 Jul 2018, 10:11 pm

EzraS wrote:
RichardJ wrote:
^Somebody is bitter, same old goldfish21 as he ever was. Wonderful to see the same crap over and over. I ignored this place for nearly 3 years; dates change, people don't


Yep over and over, round and round. Same old thing under a false premise. Goldfish with his diet act, just like ASS-P with his uni act. Thread after thread, year after year.


This is exactly why I have been absent here for a while, I remember debating that diet nonsense in 2013 when I first joined, according to my knowledge of railways, a runaway train that can't be stopped is a danger to society. Don't get me started about ASS-P, after his thousands of posts whining about his situation and doing nothing about it, I have lost my sympathy. I start to wonder if he is just a long term troll and is making the whole thing up. I loved what Fnord said in his last thread, asking a simple question, and after getting another random keyboard and emoticon ramble,
Fnord wrote:
I'm outta here


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29 Jul 2018, 10:16 pm

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I guess what this all boils down to is that some of us are competently & confidently self aware of our diagnoses, and others are clueless, or oblivious, until they’re told by some other human.


I have also seen people who are so convinced that they have some illness, when clearly they don't. It is like a horoscope, if you read it, then you try and see how fits into your life you will invariably shoehorn it in. One starts with a bias that they have it and dismiss all other possibilities. It is best that a third party educated in the subject do the actual diagnosis.


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29 Jul 2018, 10:23 pm

What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc.



Also, some people know they have been reincarnated. Some people know they have conversations with a deity. Some people know they have psychic abilities. Some people who are psychotic know that they are sane.



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29 Jul 2018, 10:37 pm

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What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc.


I wouldn't have the job I have repairing vacuum cleaners(a special interest, I must add) without Michigan Rehabilitation Services(MRS), and for them to be of any use to anyone, you must have a diagnosis of some sort. I would have never gotten IEP protection and any help without it, either.


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29 Jul 2018, 10:43 pm

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What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc.


That is true, but I am quite old and predate the time before these accommodations even existed. Nor do I seek any now. Some of these accommodations would cage me in a box and would have limited my success.


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29 Jul 2018, 10:52 pm

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What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc


Thanks to what I do to treat my symptoms, I function highly enough to work the 3 jobs I am right now and am able to make the money I need to make it in this world. I’m not dependent on government disability programs or handouts, so an official diagnosis wouldn’t benefit me in this way.


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29 Jul 2018, 10:57 pm

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EzraS wrote:
What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc


Thanks to what I do to treat my symptoms, I function highly enough to work the 3 jobs I am right now and am able to make the money I need to make it in this world. I’m not dependent on government disability programs or handouts, so an official diagnosis wouldn’t benefit me in this way.


If you are so highly functioning and have all but cured yourself, why post about it here? Take your gut dysbiosis theory and recommendations and become a case study for a researcher or medical journal. Everyone here has already heard them, take your message to the world.


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29 Jul 2018, 11:06 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc


Thanks to what I do to treat my symptoms, I function highly enough to work the 3 jobs I am right now and am able to make the money I need to make it in this world. I’m not dependent on government disability programs or handouts, so an official diagnosis wouldn’t benefit me in this way.


If you are so highly functioning and have all but cured yourself, why post about it here? Take your gut dysbiosis theory and recommendations and become a case study for a researcher or medical journal. Everyone here has already heard them, take your message to the world.


I’ve already communicated with autism researchers at autism speaks as well as autism researcher Dr. Stephanie Seneff. Regardless of EzraS suggesting that I would never be involved in ASD research; too late - I’ve already influenced ASD researchers by sharing what I’ve learned and done with them.

I’m also in the process of contacting a few other ASD research doctors now.


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29 Jul 2018, 11:52 pm

RichardJ wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
What a person thinks or knows about themselves, won't get them specialized services, therapy, treatments, schooling, vocations, housing etc


Thanks to what I do to treat my symptoms, I function highly enough to work the 3 jobs I am right now and am able to make the money I need to make it in this world. I’m not dependent on government disability programs or handouts, so an official diagnosis wouldn’t benefit me in this way.


If you are so highly functioning and have all but cured yourself, why post about it here? Take your gut dysbiosis theory and recommendations and become a case study for a researcher or medical journal. Everyone here has already heard them, take your message to the world.


I’ve already communicated with autism researchers at autism speaks as well as autism researcher Dr. Stephanie Seneff. Regardless of EzraS suggesting that I would never be involved in ASD research; too late - I’ve already influenced ASD researchers by sharing what I’ve learned and done with them.

I’m also in the process of contacting a few other ASD research doctors now. I’ve also recently been given the names of a couple of specialist doctors & ASD centre people who may be interested in what I have to share, so I’ll contact them, and others in the future, too.


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30 Jul 2018, 12:37 am

This thread no matter how much one might try to stick to the supposed topic, is really so that goldfish can keep sucking people into arguing with him about his diet and for him to keep repeating his same scripted lines.

He started this thread because the one he started a couple of days ago, with the same intent was locked. Just like the thread he started before that one that was also locked. Along with countless other virtually identical threads.

The staff said they were going to crack down on this sort of thing, but that doesn't appear to be happening.



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30 Jul 2018, 12:52 am

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I was self diagnosed and joined at a time when WP treated us as 'others'... things are more inclusive now, but that was hard fought. Trivialising something like this, to make a point is not ok in my books.