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02 Aug 2018, 9:32 am

I have that issue sometimes when I am concentrating on a topic really hard before I go to sleep (and occasionally when I am awake). It can be useful though as I can often "see" a part of the problem that I had overlooked up to that point in time. I tend to solve problems and puzzles in my sleep since I was little. I found that if I watch certain forms of funny anime or tv shows before I go to bed, it generally stops this process from happening and allows me to get a more restful sleep overall.



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02 Aug 2018, 10:32 am

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My mind races fast sometimes and I am extremely productive when my mind races, but my brain has trouble slowing down and resting. Sometimes it interferes with my sleep. Other times I have no energy or motivation to do anything. When my energy and motivation are low, I get excessively tired and don't want to do anything. There is no in between for mind. I am either productive to the extreme or not productive at all. I sleep better when my brain doesn't want to do anything. Do any of you experience this? How do you calm your mind so you can relax and sleep?

This sound to me like ADHD.


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02 Aug 2018, 10:38 am

LoneLoyalWolf wrote:
ladyelaine wrote:
My mind races fast sometimes and I am extremely productive when my mind races, but my brain has trouble slowing down and resting. Sometimes it interferes with my sleep. Other times I have no energy or motivation to do anything. When my energy and motivation are low, I get excessively tired and don't want to do anything. There is no in between for mind. I am either productive to the extreme or not productive at all. I sleep better when my brain doesn't want to do anything. Do any of you experience this? How do you calm your mind so you can relax and sleep?

This sound to me like ADHD.


It could be, but the description of the alternating from high to low mood along with energy issues sounded more like a mood disorder (bipolar/cyclothymia) to me. Nobody can diagnose or fully understand the issue over the internet, though. We are just giving the OP our opinion based on our life experience and belief. If this problem significantly impacts their life, then they should consult a mental health professional.


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02 Aug 2018, 10:38 am

I can relate. I have those exact same problems. I suggest you to do Yoga and/or breathing meditation techniques. That's been of great help to me.



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02 Aug 2018, 12:21 pm

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
It could be, but the description of the alternating from high to low mood along with energy issues sounded more like a mood disorder (bipolar/cyclothymia) to me. Nobody can diagnose or fully understand the issue over the internet, though. We are just giving the OP our opinion based on our life experience and belief. If this problem significantly impacts their life, then they should consult a mental health professional.

No, those disorders are way more clear, and they disrupt your daily life tremendously. Energy issues and mood changes are part of ADHD when not stimulated enough.


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02 Aug 2018, 1:12 pm

LoneLoyalWolf wrote:
StampySquiddyFan wrote:
It could be, but the description of the alternating from high to low mood along with energy issues sounded more like a mood disorder (bipolar/cyclothymia) to me. Nobody can diagnose or fully understand the issue over the internet, though. We are just giving the OP our opinion based on our life experience and belief. If this problem significantly impacts their life, then they should consult a mental health professional.

No, those disorders are way more clear, and they disrupt your daily life tremendously. Energy issues and mood changes are part of ADHD when not stimulated enough.


People with cyclothymia often function at a normal or near-normal level when compared with bipolar I disorder. Based on the symptoms and family history of cyclothymia, I offered my opinion. I cannot say for sure what is going on with the OP. Nor can anyone who is not a licensed mental health professional.


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02 Aug 2018, 2:05 pm

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
People with cyclothymia often function at a normal or near-normal level when compared with bipolar I disorder. Based on the symptoms and family history of cyclothymia, I offered my opinion. I cannot say for sure what is going on with the OP. Nor can anyone who is not a licensed mental health professional.

I am also just sharing my opinion and respect yours, please respect mine. Thank you.


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02 Aug 2018, 7:26 pm

LoneLoyalWolf wrote:
StampySquiddyFan wrote:
People with cyclothymia often function at a normal or near-normal level when compared with bipolar I disorder. Based on the symptoms and family history of cyclothymia, I offered my opinion. I cannot say for sure what is going on with the OP. Nor can anyone who is not a licensed mental health professional.

I am also just sharing my opinion and respect yours, please respect mine. Thank you.


Of course. I wasn't trying to disrespect your view on things. I was also just sharing my opinion and why I thought that way instead. I have complete respect for your opinion, and I am sure you have more experience than me.


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02 Aug 2018, 8:54 pm

I appreciate everyone's input. I feel like my symptoms match more closely with cyclothymia. My grandpa, my dad, and my brother all have adhd. I'm pretty sure my brother also has cyclothymia. He has the same symptoms that I have and he has struggled with keeping jobs and managing money. He is doing well at his current job. I have only ever been able to work part time. Full time is just too much for me. Working more than 20 hours a week is hard on me. If I don't get enough down time, my mood swings get worse. Traumatic experiences can make a mood disorder worse. Hence, my hospital stay last year. I wish had decent county mental health services, but I don't. It is really expensive and I can't get financial aid for an appointment with a psychiatrist. The sliding scale is only applicable to the medication itself. I was on quetiapine( Seroquel) for a couple of months after my hospital stay.



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02 Aug 2018, 9:22 pm

ladyelaine wrote:
I appreciate everyone's input. I feel like my symptoms match more closely with cyclothymia. My grandpa, my dad, and my brother all have adhd. I'm pretty sure my brother also has cyclothymia. He has the same symptoms that I have and he has struggled with keeping jobs and managing money. He is doing well at his current job. I have only ever been able to work part time. Full time is just too much for me. Working more than 20 hours a week is hard on me. If I don't get enough down time, my mood swings get worse. Traumatic experiences can make a mood disorder worse. Hence, my hospital stay last year. I wish had decent county mental health services, but I don't. It is really expensive and I can't get financial aid for an appointment with a psychiatrist. The sliding scale is only applicable to the medication itself. I was on quetiapine( Seroquel) for a couple of months after my hospital stay.

You know yourself the best.

Wish you much strength in these tough struggles Milady. Hope things get better soon.

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Of course. I wasn't trying to disrespect your view on things. I was also just sharing my opinion and why I thought that way instead. I have complete respect for your opinion, and I am sure you have more experience than me.

You might be young, but I don't care about age. Experience is in the soul. Children have taught me valuable things, as well as old people. We are equal.


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02 Aug 2018, 10:17 pm

LoneLoyalWolf wrote:
ladyelaine wrote:
I appreciate everyone's input. I feel like my symptoms match more closely with cyclothymia. My grandpa, my dad, and my brother all have adhd. I'm pretty sure my brother also has cyclothymia. He has the same symptoms that I have and he has struggled with keeping jobs and managing money. He is doing well at his current job. I have only ever been able to work part time. Full time is just too much for me. Working more than 20 hours a week is hard on me. If I don't get enough down time, my mood swings get worse. Traumatic experiences can make a mood disorder worse. Hence, my hospital stay last year. I wish had decent county mental health services, but I don't. It is really expensive and I can't get financial aid for an appointment with a psychiatrist. The sliding scale is only applicable to the medication itself. I was on quetiapine( Seroquel) for a couple of months after my hospital stay.

You know yourself the best.

Wish you much strength in these tough struggles Milady. Hope things get better soon.

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
Of course. I wasn't trying to disrespect your view on things. I was also just sharing my opinion and why I thought that way instead. I have complete respect for your opinion, and I am sure you have more experience than me.

You might be young, but I don't care about age. Experience is in the soul. Children have taught me valuable things, as well as old people. We are equal.


Thank you, LoneLoyalWolf. It's good to see you on here again. I'm sure I will be ok. I somehow always find my through my struggles. Wrongplanet certainly makes a difference in my life.

I have certainly learned a lot from people of all ages here on wrongplanet and in my everyday life.



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03 Aug 2018, 12:09 pm

ladyelaine wrote:
I appreciate everyone's input. I feel like my symptoms match more closely with cyclothymia. My grandpa, my dad, and my brother all have adhd. I'm pretty sure my brother also has cyclothymia. He has the same symptoms that I have and he has struggled with keeping jobs and managing money. He is doing well at his current job. I have only ever been able to work part time. Full time is just too much for me. Working more than 20 hours a week is hard on me. If I don't get enough down time, my mood swings get worse. Traumatic experiences can make a mood disorder worse. Hence, my hospital stay last year. I wish had decent county mental health services, but I don't. It is really expensive and I can't get financial aid for an appointment with a psychiatrist. The sliding scale is only applicable to the medication itself. I was on quetiapine( Seroquel) for a couple of months after my hospital stay.


From what my therapist said with regards to Asperger, it's usually associated with comorbidities such as depression, bipolar disordar, ADHD and so on. So, your problems can still be somehow related to Aspger's anyway.

I remember my therapist telling me that in a specific occasion when I was talking about my issues with racing thoughts, not unlike you have described. It was one week or two after I was first diagnosed with Asperger's.



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03 Aug 2018, 12:32 pm

Yes and I have ADHD. Only ADHD no mood disorders.

I have pretty much learned to cope and structure my time better when that happens. For example I always always want to work at that time. But that made my boss think I get a lot of work done so he gives me more work. And then during the time when my brain is worn out I actually do nothing. Instead now I work only during the work hours and if brain is still on I read when i get home. Or I feel more social during that time so I go to group yoga sessions and chat with the ppl afterwards. After yoga I tend to feel more relaxed no racing thoughts.


Sometimes this feeling does make me dream of my work or whatever my brain is on about. I can’t help it so I meditate which helps.

I tend to be more at peace when my brain is not thinking about the task at hand so I try to segment it into what I’ll do at a certain time of the day. That way I feel more accomplished(when the task for the day is done) and my mind shuts out the thoughts of work until the next day. And I go through the rest of day and finish other tasks at hand like laundry or filling out forms or researching something(daily tasks outside work)


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13 Aug 2018, 12:03 pm

My brain slowed down a couple of days ago. I have slept really good the past three nights. My energy is low again. I took zquil so I could get some sleep last week. I had to basically force myself to do my chores. I think the fact that I feel my feelings so strongly contributes to my mood swings. School just started for my work. I usually get the back to school jitters but this year was the worst case of back to school jitters ever.



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13 Aug 2018, 1:56 pm

Sometimes, but I don't think it's to this level of extreme. It can be damaging to my sleep, sometimes to the point where I even have a strange and irrational fear of sleeping, but this only happens when I'm fully awake and my mind is often active. I largely just hope that doing something will eventually burn out the energy and that'll let me sleep but it almost never does.