A disconnect, in marriage, from women?

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Richard_the_ Dogged
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09 Nov 2018, 6:50 pm

Hate to have to say this, but to me it seems like the folks that go along with the idea of Autism-Asperger's-Neurological Difference are generally going to be those who have some sympathy for Social Darwinism, and for Eugenics. And these were after all the central pillars of the Nazi Party.

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12 Nov 2018, 1:37 pm

I think we can form identities around our common sensibilities while remaining cognizant that this entire concept is bunk. It's obvious to most of us that we've been painted into a corner.


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13 Nov 2018, 5:26 pm

cberg, If I am understanding you correctly, I 100% agree without. We must band together and start fighting back, protecting ourselves, others, and especially the children of today.

How do you like the concept, Shamanic Experience, or just Shamanic ?

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13 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm

I think the concept & experience are one & the same. If I'm honest I'm right in the middle of it as I type this. It's about the question of how to protect people who have 'disconnected' from themselves, myself included. What's different about me is that my attachments to technology no longer extend into my personal life, I get enough of that just working.

Without modifying my consciousness there's no way of aligning it with anyone else's.


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14 Nov 2018, 8:31 am

A shaman is the recluse who stands outside the herd and communes with the spirits of his ancestors. A shaman can never have a normal family life and often chooses to remain alone, because he needs his energy for his duties. You don't choose to become a shaman, it chooses you.



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14 Nov 2018, 1:19 pm

cheffe wrote:
A shaman is the recluse who stands outside the herd and communes with the spirits of his ancestors. A shaman can never have a normal family life and often chooses to remain alone, because he needs his energy for his duties. You don't choose to become a shaman, it chooses you.


I chose often to remain alone because I need the energy. I do not commune with my ancestors so I guess that means I am not a shaman "just" autistic. I don't get to feel superior :(


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14 Nov 2018, 3:12 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
cheffe wrote:
A shaman is the recluse who stands outside the herd and communes with the spirits of his ancestors. A shaman can never have a normal family life and often chooses to remain alone, because he needs his energy for his duties. You don't choose to become a shaman, it chooses you.


I chose often to remain alone because I need the energy. I do not commune with my ancestors so I guess that means I am not a shaman "just" autistic. I don't get to feel superior :(


I'm sorry you feel this way, I didn't want to make you feel bad or anything. Being humble is far more important than feeling superior.



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14 Nov 2018, 3:36 pm

cheffe wrote:
A shaman is the recluse who stands outside the herd and communes with the spirits of his ancestors. A shaman can never have a normal family life and often chooses to remain alone, because he needs his energy for his duties. You don't choose to become a shaman, it chooses you.


I don't necessarily choose to remain alone even though it often seems like the path of least resistance. Otherwise how would I tell anyone what I've learned from this scenario?


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14 Nov 2018, 5:24 pm

Some shaman will marry and have children. Others might be given custody of a child separated from its parents because it shows mystical abilities.

And then other shaman will live quite ordinary lives, its just that their mystical abilities are valued and further developed, rather than being used as a justification for persecution.

I feel that many who have been abused in the ways characteristic of the Autism-Asperger's Experience are too soft in letting Significant Other's walk all over them and in general disrespect them. I certainly was. And I feel that more often than not this is a females against males kind of abuse.

This is why now late in middle age, I have to rebuild my life, and that starts with re-educating myself.

I am not responsible for the fact that once we were married, my wife turned against me. Her infidelities were never of a sexual nature. They would not have been, they were in how she expected social conformity and was more interested in the external status of being married, rather than in an actual partnership. To me it still seems horribly unfair. But I am fighting back on all the political fronts which I can. I know that there are areas where I can impact abusers.

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15 Nov 2018, 4:19 pm

Richard_the_ Dogged wrote:
they were in how she expected social conformity and was more interested in the external status of being married, rather than in an actual partnership. To me it still seems horribly unfair.


This specific issue wouldn't make a bad thread in the love and relationships section. I think many there who are unhappily single also worry too much about living out a single social idea of what relationships are.

Shakespeare had few happy couples. Something to think about.



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15 Nov 2018, 4:26 pm

Richard_the_ Dogged wrote:
... I am not responsible for the fact that once we were married, my wife turned against me. Her infidelities were never of a sexual nature. They would not have been, they were in how she expected social conformity and was more interested in the external status of being married, rather than in an actual partnership. To me it still seems horribly unfair. But I am fighting back on all the political fronts which I can. I know that there are areas where I can impact abusers.
In other words, having been traumatized by your poor choice in a marriage partner, you seek to exercise your unconsummated vengeance upon the rest of the world and call it "Justice".

I pity you, man.

I really pity you.