[ POLL ] What Are Your Experiences With Microaggression?
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
It can be really hard to recognize in the moment, I struggle myself to recognize it and often don't until well afterwards. I'm not sure what your neighbour's motivations were, it's hard to say for such people. Maybe she thought your smilies were sarcastic? I find sometimes when I think I'm being really clear in my messaging in text people will take something I say way out of context or read into it all kinds of emotions and thoughts I wasn't at all having when I typed it that makes me wonder if my text is as clear as I think it is, or everyone is seriously paranoid and just reading all kinds of stuff into everything that isn't there. I find it just as puzzling as you do. All you can really do is let people think what they want and just go on with your own business, if they're being irrational like that. I've given up trying to understand people's reactions when they are like that, you never get a straight answer if you try to ask them anyway so it seems pointless to even bother.
I told her I didn't mean any kind of personal attack, and suggested I come over and talk in person to explain, and because I had cake. Now I think she is actually terrified by me
Oh well. I tried.
Truthfully, this neighbor causes me a lot of stress, and not just because of that. Her front door is right next to everyone's mailboxes. She has a dog that jumps out and barks and tries to bite people when they get their mail. She always leaves her front door open for some reason though. I never know when the dog is there, and if it's awake, because it always waits till my back is turned to leap out. Luckily she usually has the screen door closed, but it's still startling. She also recently installed some kind of camera pointed at the mail boxes that emits a loud alarm whenever someone approaches. I don't know if she doesn't feel safe, or if she is worried about people stealing packages, but it's loud as f***, and I never know whether I'm going to set it off or not, since I think she doesn't always have it on. I don't know what her deal is, but I just wish she'd leave me alone.
I feel like I can't even talk to her about it.
Fern wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
It can be really hard to recognize in the moment, I struggle myself to recognize it and often don't until well afterwards. I'm not sure what your neighbour's motivations were, it's hard to say for such people. Maybe she thought your smilies were sarcastic? I find sometimes when I think I'm being really clear in my messaging in text people will take something I say way out of context or read into it all kinds of emotions and thoughts I wasn't at all having when I typed it that makes me wonder if my text is as clear as I think it is, or everyone is seriously paranoid and just reading all kinds of stuff into everything that isn't there. I find it just as puzzling as you do. All you can really do is let people think what they want and just go on with your own business, if they're being irrational like that. I've given up trying to understand people's reactions when they are like that, you never get a straight answer if you try to ask them anyway so it seems pointless to even bother.
I told her I didn't mean any kind of personal attack, and suggested I come over and talk in person to explain, and because I had cake. Now I think she is actually terrified by me
Oh well. I tried.
Truthfully, this neighbor causes me a lot of stress, and not just because of that. Her front door is right next to everyone's mailboxes. She has a dog that jumps out and barks and tries to bite people when they get their mail. She always leaves her front door open for some reason though. I never know when the dog is there, and if it's awake, because it always waits till my back is turned to leap out. Luckily she usually has the screen door closed, but it's still startling. She also recently installed some kind of camera pointed at the mail boxes that emits a loud alarm whenever someone approaches. I don't know if she doesn't feel safe, or if she is worried about people stealing packages, but it's loud as f***, and I never know whether I'm going to set it off or not, since I think she doesn't always have it on. I don't know what her deal is, but I just wish she'd leave me alone.
I feel like I can't even talk to her about it.
That sounds really stressful. I hate loud noises like alarms, they are physically painful for me and they stun me so I'm temporarily incapacitated until the noise is gone. I wish I had better advice for you but I really don't know how to deal with people like that either. I would probably have done just what you did: invite her to talk about it in person in a friendly way if I thought she was misunderstanding me. If that sort of thing scares her, I don't know if she can recognize reason. I usually just try to avoid people like that, but it sucks when you're thrown into a situation with a person like that you can't avoid, like a neighbour or a coworker.
Maybe someone here with better social skills than me will have better advice. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Fern wrote:
Former co-worker at a camp: Look at you rowing two big boys across the lake all by yourself! Young lady, now where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
Me: I think I can't remember that far back. Nice job rowing those two little girls across the lake by yourself too. Where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
<silence>
If you look young like I do and like lots of aspies do this is probably because she underestimated your age.
It's really hard not to say something back like you did.
In fact, I think it's a pretty good way of reminding them that you're not a kid. But they do get embarrassed after, hence the silence, so if you want someone to feel good, don't do it. Just do it if you're standing up for yourself instead.
SaveFerris wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I should have posted a poll with this thread.
I can do that for you , what do you want it to say ?[ ] Completely Agree.
[ ] Mostly Agree.
[ ] I don't know / I don't care.
[ ] Mostly Disagree.
[ ] Completely Disagree.
One vote per person, and please select the option to change one's vote.
Thank you!
I wish there was an option:
"Agree with partially."
I believe the "microaggressions" stated do occur.
But I believe people tend to overreact, and to see "microaggressions" that either are not there at all, or are not intended.
There are people who do "seek" to be offended, in a sense--and who do see "offense" everywhere.
Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Done
although it doesn't say it's a poll on the thread title in the GAD list ( don't know why that is )
You would have to edit the original subject line to place "[ POLL ]" at the beginning -- I always do.Done.
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SaveFerris wrote:
Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Done
although it doesn't say it's a poll on the thread title in the GAD list ( don't know why that is )
You would have to edit the original subject line to place "[ POLL ]" at the beginning -- I always do.Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Fnord wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Done
although it doesn't say it's a poll on the thread title in the GAD list ( don't know why that is )
You would have to edit the original subject line to place "[ POLL ]" at the beginning -- I always do.Your welcome.
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TUF wrote:
Fern wrote:
Former co-worker at a camp: Look at you rowing two big boys across the lake all by yourself! Young lady, now where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
Me: I think I can't remember that far back. Nice job rowing those two little girls across the lake by yourself too. Where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
<silence>
If you look young like I do and like lots of aspies do this is probably because she underestimated your age.
It's really hard not to say something back like you did.
In fact, I think it's a pretty good way of reminding them that you're not a kid. But they do get embarrassed after, hence the silence, so if you want someone to feel good, don't do it. Just do it if you're standing up for yourself instead.
It's a fair point, but I worked with this person for four years before then, so he was aware that I was 30. He was only 49 himself, so it's not like I was trolling the elderly or something. Also, I wasn't trying to be a jerk. I literally do not remember learning to operate a row boat because I grew up on the water. I do remember trying to run away from home in a row boat when I was 5 though, so I guess it must have been sometime before then that I learned.
I think why I respond to little digs like this is maybe because 50% of the time I am unaware, 25% of the time I think it's just funny, and 100% of the time I am too lazy to give it much thought.
I think people here who say microaggressions don't matter aren't exactly wrong or right. Just because we are bad at seeing them doesn't mean they don't exist. It's still bad to hang around people who are trying to put you down all the time, even if I sometimes have trouble picking these people or behaviors out. I think it's really the intent behind the words that matters most. By the same token, our being unable to feel the weight of microaggression I think might give us a superpower for fighting them that would make the average NT green with envy.
Fern wrote:
Examples:
Former Boss: Mmm, that looks good! <steals several fries from my plate without asking>
Me: Mmm, so does yours! <takes a bite from his churro without asking>
<silence>
Former co-worker at a camp: Look at you rowing two big boys across the lake all by yourself! Young lady, now where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
Me: I think I can't remember that far back. Nice job rowing those two little girls across the lake by yourself too. Where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
<silence>
Former Boss: Mmm, that looks good! <steals several fries from my plate without asking>
Me: Mmm, so does yours! <takes a bite from his churro without asking>
<silence>
Former co-worker at a camp: Look at you rowing two big boys across the lake all by yourself! Young lady, now where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
Me: I think I can't remember that far back. Nice job rowing those two little girls across the lake by yourself too. Where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
<silence>
I howled reading your responses here!
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Skilpadde wrote:
I'm with grahambaster, Bea, kraftie, ASPOM, and Magna on this one.
I agree with them too.
I feel more often than not that people accused of micro aggressions are probably innocent and just ignorant of anything hurtful that may be inferred by people that are sensitive to discrimination for whatever reason. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt that they meant no harm and simply educate. There are plenty of people that are outwardly aggressive and clearly hateful of other groups (for example, people that blatantly state I should not be allowed in public because I depend on a Service Dog so either I am a danger or burden to others).
I feel Autistics probably miss when people are being passive aggressive like this (that is, using micro aggressions) and are more often wrongly accused of being passive aggressive like this.
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