What is a greater hinderance: Autism or other problems?

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I suppose you're right, I don't think I have to deal with any of that. I do worry about fitting in but mostly because I refuse to change my image or interests in pursuit of being accepted. None of that sounds appealing to me in the slightest.

I have moderate to severe autism and severe dyspraxia. They tend to overlap. It's hard to tell sometimes which is giving me more difficulty in some areas.

But we must deal with lot of others

If you're getting punished for just being yourself, you start to maintain an image too (or rather mask), and it's more costly for us than for them.


But refusing to get drunk may end up with abuse, and you may get anxiety for that too


NT's will backbite just because you're different, not playing their games won't help with this, it may make matters only worse

That's true if you're lucky enough to live in civilized society, otherwise you will die from starvation.

The same as above, most of the time genuine passion won't buy you food, so you end up doing things against yourself, hurting yourself (and sometimes others).

I have other disabilities unrated to autism including a rare low vision disorder that makes me very nearsighted & somewhat colorblind(I cant drive cuz of it) & I also have a tremor disorder that acts up when doing things with fine motor-skills. I tell others about these disorders cuz they're very noticeable about me after abit & I feel they really limit me with functioning & being independent. My Aspergers definitely makes things worse for me & I feel without Aspergers I could better compensate for my other disabilities. Without Aspergers & my comorbids like dyslexia & other related learning disabilities, I would of done alot better with skewl & I would of also done better at job interviews without Aspergers so I would of had much better luck with employment than I've had. I feel like my nonAspergerrs related disabilities limit me more with employment & being independent than Aspergers. Aspergers is part of who I am while my other disabilities are just deficits I have when compared to most everyone else. My other disabilities just make things worse for me & bring nothing good to the table.

For me, other problems. Exactly what you mentioned, the usual fatigue. I also have processing difficulties where I get stuck trying to understand something simple. Ironically, I do not have this difficulty for things more complex.

Other problems, hands down. Autism causes me trouble of course, but it's nothing compared to how much my physical disability limits my life and causes me pain. For the most part, autism just slows me down yet my physical disability actually keeps me from doing stuff. A lot of stuff.

But then again, I suppose you could say that it's the compination of the two that is the real problem. For example it's hard for me to keep relationships with other people stable because of autism (I think that's the reason, but y personality could have something to do with it, too), but sometimes there are times that I want to see people and go to places with them, but my physical disability makes it impossible, either by having tired out my body beforehand or because I know my body wouldn't be able to handle the activity because of it. And because there are many activities I can't join in, I not only miss on the experience but also kind of drop out of the social circles more because of my physical disability.

So, if there was some magical way to completely get rid of one or the other but not both, I'd get rid off my physical disability without hesitation. After all, if autism makes me mess things up, I can always fix them and try again, but my physical disability can get deadly. I can't fix a thing if I'm dead.

I don't have the physical limitations, but I do have the issue of not being able to keep with social circles. I've never been able to tell if it's aspergers, anxiety, or just my own personality driving people off, or maybe it's just some kind of combination.

I think blooie came to the realization that while she does have problems, maybe others have problems, too, that she might be spared from. This is an important realization. You both have points. I think it may be a case of whether the glass is half empty or half full. Or what you use the lemons for.

Dyspraxia is really tough n most ppl don’t even know about it.


I think it is part of moderate n severe ASD judging by my son.

I need to read up on it more myself.

You are like shortfatuglybaldman in the logical way u countered or added to those points.
The reason i notice is because I lack that way of thinking n admire it.

And I provided details how those problems may look like

Am I the only one thinking that glass is half empty AND half full? Both statements are true and picture without one can only be partial.


I don't think there's a reason to admire it, everything has it's pros and cons. Because of it I can only admire your ability to socialize, that saved you many bad experiences. And if your autism is lesser hinderance to you, it's because of it. And logic is bad

LOgic and rationality is the best way to understand the reality of things in a broken down way (in depth i mean).
Thats why its admirable. It gives a solid foundation to build upon

Thats how engineers and scientists helped humanity advance so much

The way i think is just vague impressions n strong feelings

therefore a lot of decisions i have made have been bad decisions because it is all based on feelings not substance.
It’s also easy to trick me because I project my own beliefs n feelings onto others. That also makes me annoying to talk to because I think everyone feels the same way as me. N they feel it just as strongly (even if they clearly say they don’t agree)

Then I inadvertently hurt ppl’s feelings or trample on their rights.

So i have to always ‘tread carefully’ n be alert n apologize in advance. So your n shortfatuglybaldman’s way of thinking is overall what Wd balance the errors in my usual way of thinking .

It doesn't. It won't give you an answer what to build upon it, and it is not that solid foundation, everything starts from assumptions, that are chosen arbitraly. And when you understand the reality of things you start to see that it's empty and useless, and that there's no one around you with whom you could share it.


Nope, it's the love of knowledge that helped. And engineers and scientists are as illogical as others, sometimes even more when they start to believe they've already learned everything.

I think the difference is in scale, not the essence. Science advances, because of vague impressions, dreams and feelings. Logic is secondary, and usually comes afterwards, if ever

But feelings are substance. To make good decisions you need knowledge, not logic. Of course logic can help you to learn for yourself, but if you're lucky enough someone else can teach you what you need to know.
Logic can't help you with that, I'm saying that from my own experience.

So welcome to the club

Me too, and logic won't help you with that. The problem is, people are not logical, and logic can't help to understand them. Or maybe I'm just not that fat and bald to match shortfatuglybaldman

Gender identity Disorder used to be a bigger hindrance for me, than autism. Then I moved somewhere less homophobic

Depression and anxiety are hindrances too

But sometimes, autism causes not having enough friends. That , in turn, makes it easier to get depressed

It definitely hasn't helped any for me to be sure.

Gender Dysphoria which brings on anxiety and depression. Another problem has always been people. Teachers and my parents trying to hold me back. If those people weren't so difficult in the past, I would have been more successful. I sort of developed a hippie mentality because I thought it was better than being seen as a loser. I still do.