How Old Were You When You Were Diagnosed?

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What Age Did You Find You Had Asperges/Autism?
I don't have Asperges or Autism. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I have not been assessed yet/Waiting assessment. 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
I don't know if I have autism /asperges or not and not going to be assessed. 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
0-4. 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
5-9. 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
10-19. 15%  15%  [ 8 ]
20-29. 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
30-39. 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
40-49. 20%  20%  [ 11 ]
50-59. 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
60-69. 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
70-79. 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
80-89. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
90-99. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Over 100! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 55

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21 Jun 2019, 8:28 pm

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The strange thing is that even today in my area, when I talked about the subject to someone who is a schoolteacher, (And I did not mention why I had looked up the subject but it came up in conversation somehow) and her impression of anyone on the autistic spectrum is that they habe a severe dissability and some sort of severe mental issue they battle with. (As I was referring to people who had it mildly and she seemed to be unaware that this was possible! Ad she was a school teacher in a collage teaching the 16 and up age groups).


Yes, we have a severe disability.
Having to live in an NT defined society full of ignoram-asses.



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21 Jun 2019, 8:37 pm

I was 3 at the time of my diagnosis.

Despite being female, I presented in every way like a male my age. That probably led to me getting diagnosed so much younger than other autistic females.


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21 Jun 2019, 8:37 pm

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Think of this way:

Many people of Rain Man as being on the "high-functioning" end of the Spectrum. And he was called "very mild" in the film.

Many people believe that autistic people don't talk, and are not able to interact with people spontaneously.


If they called him "very mildly" autistic I would have to disagree.
I believe "Rain man" would have been classified as an: "Idiot Savant".
They have dropped the "Idiot" these days.

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Savant syndrome is a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrates certain abilities far in excess of average.[1][2] The skills at which savants excel are generally related to memory.[1] This may include rapid calculation, artistic ability, map making, or musical ability.[1] Usually just one special skill is present.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome


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21 Jun 2019, 8:43 pm

I was 30.



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21 Jun 2019, 8:49 pm

It was determined, later, that Kim Peek was not autistic.

He suffered from a lack of a big part of the Corpus Callosum (spelling?), I believe.

I'm not sure if they said "very mild," or "mild" in referring to Rain Man. But, at the very least, he was said to have "mild autism.



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21 Jun 2019, 8:50 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
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I was about three years old.

I had no speech. I seemed oblivious to the world. It was quite evident that there was something VERY wrong with me at that time.

One only got diagnosed with autism in the 1960s if there was something "very wrong" with them.


The strange thing is that even today in my area, when I talked about the subject to someone who is a schoolteacher, (And I did not mention why I had looked up the subject but it came up in conversation somehow) and her impression of anyone on the autistic spectrum is that they habe a severe dissability and some sort of severe mental issue they battle with. (As I was referring to people who had it mildly and she seemed to be unaware that this was possible! Ad she was a school teacher in a collage teaching the 16 and up age groups).

Yes, it seems a lot of people once thought (and some still think) every condition was binary "on" or "off". In fact there are multiple "spectrum disorders" with their own associated conditions and varying severities.

To answer the poll question, I was around mid-teens when I got a diagnosis of aspergers & depression with a side of anxiety. They didn't really tell me why I was being evaluated, but I don't think anyone in my family had ever heard of aspergers before then. They didn't really seem to accept it as a legitimate thing either. It seemed to make sense for me even though my parents tried to tell me otherwise. One of the doctors even told them I'd probably "grow out of it". :shrug:



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21 Jun 2019, 9:08 pm

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To answer the poll question, I was around mid-teens when I got a diagnosis of aspergers & depression with a side of anxiety. They didn't really tell me why I was being evaluated, but I don't think anyone in my family had ever heard of aspergers before then. They didn't really seem to accept it as a legitimate thing either. It seemed to make sense for me even though my parents tried to tell me otherwise. One of the doctors even told them I'd probably "grow out of it". :shrug:


One of my parents came from (Nazi) Germany.
Before the war for a short time and during it, sterilization and euthanasia were institutionalised in Nazi Germany.
That would have influenced some parents into pretending that there was nothing "wrong" with their children.
I had to be directed towards a psychologist while at a vocational guidance testing facility.
Come to think of it, I may have been dxed earlier than I thought.

BTW, Hans Asperger is suspected of being part of the Nazi sterilisation/euthanasia program. <shrug>



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21 Jun 2019, 9:38 pm

Pepe wrote:
Exuvian wrote:

To answer the poll question, I was around mid-teens when I got a diagnosis of aspergers & depression with a side of anxiety. They didn't really tell me why I was being evaluated, but I don't think anyone in my family had ever heard of aspergers before then. They didn't really seem to accept it as a legitimate thing either. It seemed to make sense for me even though my parents tried to tell me otherwise. One of the doctors even told them I'd probably "grow out of it". :shrug:


One of my parents came from (Nazi) Germany.
Before the war for a short time and during it, sterilization and euthanasia were institutionalised in Nazi Germany.
That would have influenced some parents into pretending that there was nothing "wrong" with their children.
I had to be directed towards a psychologist while at a vocational guidance testing facility.
Come to think of it, I may have been dxed earlier than I thought.

BTW, Hans Asperger is suspected of being part of the Nazi sterilisation/euthanasia program. <shrug>

It's beyond suspicion. He saved the intelligent children, but shipped the less fortunate off to their demise. :evil: I thought it was a baseless rumor, but this pretty well confirms it. Can the term "Aspergers" get any worse now?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05112-1
It's certainly a valid reason to proclaim nothing "wrong" when there are Nazis and their sympathizers taking an "interest" in anyone who doesn't conform to their "ideal".



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21 Jun 2019, 9:51 pm

In regards to Mr Asperges... One can either not like his suspected past (Assuming he was involved) or one can be greatful he discovered something which has enabled many of you to understand your battles... (As for me, the understanding is far more important then the results of a diagnosis as regardles of what the diagnosis is for me, I am almost 100% sure the energy loss situations are partial shutdowns... Why is knowing this soo much easier? Well... I have gone through years of trying to change diets assuming that the issues were dietry based because a doctor years ago assumed it was....
A few years ago when I changed doctors, both my and my Mums medical records dissapeared or were wiped... And in a way, this was the best thing rhat happened, as doctors who now didn't know me and didn't have anything to go by could actually try to test me for things again... While previous doctors had labelled me as a complainer and did all they could to prevent me from getting appointments (And I purpously tried to limit appointments to one or two a year... Just in the hope that the issues could be found without being labelled as a hypercondriact...

So you see... Just knowing, and if I get assessment results... Confirming that I am right is half rhe battle won. Then comes trying to get myself some sort of income as I will eventually have no more of my train collection to sell... (Which selling rhem enables me to keep a car on the road as we don't live near a bus stop etc).

So in regards to the man... At least he was able to do some good..


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21 Jun 2019, 10:30 pm

No matter what the movie script said, that Rain Man character was by no means mild and high functioning, except by severe level 3 standards.



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21 Jun 2019, 11:28 pm

Exuvian wrote:
Pepe wrote:
One of my parents came from (Nazi) Germany.
Before the war for a short time and during it, sterilization and euthanasia were institutionalised in Nazi Germany.
That would have influenced some parents into pretending that there was nothing "wrong" with their children.
I had to be directed towards a psychologist while at a vocational guidance testing facility.
Come to think of it, I may have been dxed earlier than I thought.

BTW, Hans Asperger is suspected of being part of the Nazi sterilisation/euthanasia program. <shrug>

It's beyond suspicion. He saved the intelligent children, but shipped the less fortunate off to their demise. :evil: I thought it was a baseless rumor, but this pretty well confirms it. Can the term "Aspergers" get any worse now?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05112-1
It's certainly a valid reason to proclaim nothing "wrong" when there are Nazis and their sympathizers taking an "interest" in anyone who doesn't conform to their "ideal".

The question of Hans Asperger's possible complicity is still not settled. See the separate thread Anthropologist disputes Hans Asperger complicity.

Still, until this question does get settled one way or the other, the controversy over his possible complicity is one of the reasons why I prefer to be called "autistic" rather than "Aspie."

(The other reason is that I technically don't fit the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's Syndrome, because I had a speech delay. Had I been diagnosed under a strict application of the DSM IV criteria, I would probably have to have been diagnosed with either "autistic disorder" or "PDD-NOS," I'm not sure which, more likely PDD-NOS I would guess. Nevertheless, my boyfriend got diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome despite having even more of a speech delay than I did, and despite still having a speech impairment as an adult.)


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22 Jun 2019, 4:33 am

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Exuvian wrote:

To answer the poll question, I was around mid-teens when I got a diagnosis of aspergers & depression with a side of anxiety. They didn't really tell me why I was being evaluated, but I don't think anyone in my family had ever heard of aspergers before then. They didn't really seem to accept it as a legitimate thing either. It seemed to make sense for me even though my parents tried to tell me otherwise. One of the doctors even told them I'd probably "grow out of it". :shrug:


One of my parents came from (Nazi) Germany.
Before the war for a short time and during it, sterilization and euthanasia were institutionalised in Nazi Germany.
That would have influenced some parents into pretending that there was nothing "wrong" with their children.
I had to be directed towards a psychologist while at a vocational guidance testing facility.
Come to think of it, I may have been dxed earlier than I thought.

BTW, Hans Asperger is suspected of being part of the Nazi sterilisation/euthanasia program. <shrug>

It's beyond suspicion. He saved the intelligent children, but shipped the less fortunate off to their demise. :evil: I thought it was a baseless rumor, but this pretty well confirms it. Can the term "Aspergers" get any worse now?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05112-1
It's certainly a valid reason to proclaim nothing "wrong" when there are Nazis and their sympathizers taking an "interest" in anyone who doesn't conform to their "ideal".


To be clear.
I wasn't criticising my parents.
I was explaining the circumstances.

This was after the war and I was in Australia.
But the psychological damage probably would have been done after living under such a repressive regime.
Once again, this is only speculation on my part.

As an aside:
Eugenics was considered and implemented by many countries:
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While eugenic principles have been practiced as early as ancient Greece, the contemporary history of eugenics began in the early 20th century, when a popular eugenics movement emerged in the United Kingdom,[6] and then spread to many countries, including the United States, Canada,[7] and most European countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


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The eugenics movement became associated with Nazi Germany and the Holocaust when many of the defendants at the Nuremberg trials attempted to justify their human rights abuses by claiming there was little difference between the Nazi eugenics programs and the U.S. eugenics programs.[8] In the decades following World War II, with the institution of human rights, many countries gradually began to abandon eugenics policies, although some Western countries, the United States, Canada, and Sweden among them, continued to carry out forced sterilizations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics



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22 Jun 2019, 9:22 am

The thing about discoveries is eventually someone will come along and find it (especially something like "aspergers"). Often things are even independently discovered simultaneously. Personally I wouldn't have minded if the discoverer had a cooler-sounding last name. Both "Winter" and "Wolf" are also Austrian names. I think I could work with that.

To be a little more considerate of the era, perhaps without Asperger none of the children would have been spared. It still sucks, of course. You're right that he was able to do some good too, which my previous post didn't acknowledge.

^ This response may be a little outdated now, but I've been getting SQL errors since trying to post yesterday. (it didn't like my emoji fox). :(
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Mona, I'll have a look at the link you posted. I prefer the term "autistic" too regardless of possible shady history surrounding "aspergers". Not just because the word itself is more mellifluous.

Pepe, I understood it was an explanation of circumstances and not a criticism of your parents. I appreciate the clarification though. Sometimes I do miss/overlook things. I was previously aware of widespread eugenics practice too. I've even heard one or two people joke about implementing it again.

This thread really steered off course...



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22 Jun 2019, 9:27 am

Self-diagnosed AS at age 32. I read a description about it in a book and it fit me.



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22 Jun 2019, 4:12 pm

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No matter what the movie script said, that Rain Man character was by no means mild and high functioning, except by severe level 3 standards.


To be fair the movie came out in 1988, and mostly just severe level 3 was being diagnosed.


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22 Jun 2019, 6:08 pm

I was 8, maybe 9. Yet I am a FEMALE with Asperger's, the high-functioning type. Most females with Asperger's aren't even recognised until they are grown-up. I didn't even have all the common symptoms, yet I was diagnosed so early for a girl. Christ, they must have put me under a giant microscope and observed me day and night. I mean, I bet there aren't any females here, with Asperger's (not severe autism), was born in the 80s or very early 90s, who got a diagnosis at that age. I feel so rare. :o


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