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26 Oct 2019, 8:25 am

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Some people claim that merino wool cloths don't get smelly but I haven't found that to be the case, so last week I rubbed a few drops of tea tree oil in my armpits before going on camping trip. I think that it may have helped with the B.O. slightly. I don't mind most people's body odour, it's usually fine so long as their diet is OK.


They make material out of bamboo. This is also said to have properties that destroy odor. I haven't tried it yet. I did buy a couple stockings made out of bamboo. I will try it an let you know the results. Bamboo material also is used to produce shirts, pants, underwear. So if it destroys or controls foot odor, it might be a very useful product.

Tea tree essential oil has strong antibiotic properties. So I could see that being useful. Maybe I should substitute tea tree oil for lavender in the above formula.


I have tried bamboo socks, they are noticeably un-smelly and very hard wearing.

I'm not sure how tea tree in armpits might affect one's glands.

I like Raleigh's Cider vinegar tip .



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26 Oct 2019, 10:16 am

Don't understand the logic here, unless you have a specific medical condition where you produce too much BO this shouldn't be a problem and the solution isn't rocket science.

Shower every morning first thing, two squirts of antiperspirant under both arms with one brief spray of deodorant, on your torso, change your underware & shirt/vest t-shirt everyday and it wont be a problem.


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26 Oct 2019, 10:29 am

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Don't understand the logic here, unless you have a specific medical condition where you produce too much BO this shouldn't be a problem and the solution isn't rocket science.

Shower every morning first thing, two squirts of antiperspirant under both arms with one brief spray of deodorant, on your torso, change your underware & shirt/vest t-shirt everyday and it wont be a problem.


Unfortunately even when you follow this regiment, you still received unwanted comments about your B.O. On top of this, one does not have the ability to detect their own B.O. It is in a sense invisible, because only others can detect your B.O. problem.

Many Aspies lament that they find it difficult making and keeping friends. I suspect this is one of those subtle reasons that explain this phenomena, one of the invisible differences between NT and Aspie physiology.


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26 Oct 2019, 11:08 am

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Don't understand the logic here, unless you have a specific medical condition where you produce too much BO this shouldn't be a problem and the solution isn't rocket science.


It is not the quantity of B.O. that is the problem but the scent itself. Many flowers have different scents. Some are quite wonderful. But they are all different.

Aspies have many traits that are abnormally different than NTs. These are things like lack of eye contact, posture and the way we walk, the way we dress, the way we talk and think. Perhaps one of these differences is an abnormal scent in our B.O. Several members on this board have mentioned problems with B.O. I am one of them. In the world of NTs, discussing a person's B.O. is a little taboo. It is not an element that one readily discusses in polite social intercourse.

When I was a supervisor, I had several employees come to me and complain about one employee who had a severe problem with B.O. I met with the employee in order to understand the problem. He was from Korea. In that country it was quite common for individuals to consume a large amount of garlic. This was the root cause. His body smelled of garlic. It was not only on his breath but its was present in his sweat glands. It was a cultural dietary difference. And many people found the odor very offensive. It was not a function of not taking showers, wearing clean clothes or using deodorants. It was a function of the actual scent produced that oozed from his body.


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26 Oct 2019, 2:28 pm

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It was a cultural dietary difference. And many people found the odor very offensive. It was not a function of not taking showers, wearing clean clothes or using deodorants. It was a function of the actual scent produced that oozed from his body.

When it was explained did that help folks tolerate it, or not?



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26 Oct 2019, 2:50 pm

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It was a cultural dietary difference. And many people found the odor very offensive. It was not a function of not taking showers, wearing clean clothes or using deodorants. It was a function of the actual scent produced that oozed from his body.

When it was explained did that help folks tolerate it, or not?


Most people are fairly intolerant, especially when it comes to offensive odors.


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26 Oct 2019, 3:20 pm

It's counter intuitive, but this study suggests eating more garlic!

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/attraction-evolved/201511/eating-garlic-makes-men-smell-more-attractive



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26 Oct 2019, 6:35 pm

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It's counter intuitive, but this study suggests eating more garlic!

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/attraction-evolved/201511/eating-garlic-makes-men-smell-more-attractive

I guess it's everything in moderation. Rhetorical Q: Where's the sweet (smelling) spot of garlic consumption for you?



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26 Oct 2019, 9:44 pm

jimmy m wrote:
carlos55 wrote:
Don't understand the logic here, unless you have a specific medical condition where you produce too much BO this shouldn't be a problem and the solution isn't rocket science.


It is not the quantity of B.O. that is the problem but the scent itself. Many flowers have different scents. Some are quite wonderful. But they are all different.

Aspies have many traits that are abnormally different than NTs. These are things like lack of eye contact, posture and the way we walk, the way we dress, the way we talk and think. Perhaps one of these differences is an abnormal scent in our B.O. Several members on this board have mentioned problems with B.O. I am one of them. In the world of NTs, discussing a person's B.O. is a little taboo. It is not an element that one readily discusses in polite social intercourse.

When I was a supervisor, I had several employees come to me and complain about one employee who had a severe problem with B.O. I met with the employee in order to understand the problem. He was from Korea. In that country it was quite common for individuals to consume a large amount of garlic. This was the root cause. His body smelled of garlic. It was not only on his breath but its was present in his sweat glands. It was a cultural dietary difference. And many people found the odor very offensive. It was not a function of not taking showers, wearing clean clothes or using deodorants. It was a function of the actual scent produced that oozed from his body.



My memory on this is fuzzy but I believe there was research that suggested we had different bacteria on our skin. I''m not 100% sure though. I actually don't have this problem at all, in fact it takes a LOT for me to smell.



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26 Oct 2019, 11:33 pm

carlos55 wrote:
Don't understand the logic here, unless you have a specific medical condition where you produce too much BO this shouldn't be a problem and the solution isn't rocket science.

Shower every morning first thing, two squirts of antiperspirant under both arms with one brief spray of deodorant, on your torso, change your underware & shirt/vest t-shirt everyday and it wont be a problem.


I avoid using any chemical antiperspirants or chemical deodorants so your method wouldn't work for me.

Perhaps it's the pheromones, but B.O. on a woman that I'm attracted to has never been offensive to me. I recall a hippie girl I dated from ages 19-21 who would often let her armpit hair grow and who often wouldn't wear deodorant. No matter at all. Her scent including mild B.O. was the opposite of offensive to me. Same with my wife; if she has mild B.O. on occasion, from overexertion, it's not offensive to me.



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29 Oct 2019, 3:44 pm

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They make material out of bamboo. This is also said to have properties that destroy odor. I haven't tried it yet. I did buy a couple stockings made out of bamboo. I will try it an let you know the results. Bamboo material also is used to produce shirts, pants, underwear. So if it destroys or controls foot odor, it might be a very useful product.

I've found that hemp clothing tends to not smell as badly as cotton and polyester, and it also makes me sweat less in the first place. Rawganique is a good online company I've purchased from, especially since they don't use harmful chemicals to process their fabrics and include clothing without elastic (for people who are allergic).

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Tea tree essential oil has strong antibiotic properties. So I could see that being useful. Maybe I should substitute tea tree oil for lavender in the above formula.

I just started using tea tree oil as deodorant yesterday. It works very well but putting anything on my underarms (as opposed to nothing, which I've done for years) actually seems to make me sweat. Oh well, at least the sweat seems to be odorless. I also wash my underarms with a combination of baking soda and salt, although I'm not sure how much that helps.



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29 Oct 2019, 3:46 pm

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The second ingredient is 100% Virgin Coconut Oil

Seems like this would clog pores, which would contribute to a person overheating, which would lead to more sweating.



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30 Oct 2019, 10:45 pm

Coconut oil is used as a common carrier oil in making essential oil botanicals.

Carrier oils are used as a base, diluting concentrated essential oils and making them safe to use on the skin. Certain oils can be applied to the skin, though it is very important to use caution when doing so. Pure essential oils are highly concentrated and need to be diluted for safe, topical use, usually with a carrier oil. Coconut oil is one of the organic oils that is frequently used as a carrier oil.


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31 Oct 2019, 10:57 pm

I use baking soda on my armpits after a shower, I leave it on for 10-15 mins then wipe it off with a wet paper towel. It works better than deodorant and I can't use deodorant because of my chronic hives. You shouldn't leave baking soda on your skin for too long as it will cause a chemical burn, but you don't need to have it on your skin for any longer than it takes to kill the bacteria.



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01 Nov 2019, 4:26 pm

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One of the problems I have been facing all my life is body odors. After reading several threads on this site, I have come to the conclusion that this problem may be typical of many Aspies.

Apparently I have a very offensive body odor. I don't smell it. But I am told by many NTs that it exists. Normal deodorants do not work. I can cake it on my armpits and I still hear complaints.

A little over a year ago I stumbled onto a solution that works. Most deodorants work on the principle of masking body odor scents with perfume like scents. Many of these scents are artificial and for me (an Aspie) are offensive.

Body odor is produced by bacteria that live in the hair in your armpits. The approach that I use is to kill the odor producing bacteria instead of trying to mask the smell. So I make my own deodorant. It is fairly effective. I will apply it and it controls the odor for around a week with one application. I generally apply it after a bath or shower.

It is a fairly simple process to make this type of deodorant. First I find a small glass jar with a screw on lid. Then I add 2 ingredients in almost equal amounts. The first is normal pure baking soda. I use Arm & Hammer which is found in a grocery store. The second ingredient is 100% Virgin Coconut Oil. This ingredient can be found in the cosmetic aisle of large grocery stores or pharmacies. I mix these two in the jar with my finger and make a paste. Then I add a few drops of essential oil to add a little scent. I use Lavender essential oil.


Body odor typical for aspies?
Hmm, my theory: maybe we are in a stressed, anxious state, filled with adrenaline more often than NT population.
As a result we sweat more?
Added to this a preference for the same comfy clothing that gets worn a little to long?

Personal solution: keep hair in smelly regions (e.g. armpits) trimmed very short.
Deodorant didn't solve my odor, and are artificial pheromones. As such a react badly to the smell of perfume.
Trimming body hair is an effective solution to keep bacteria growth and smell manageable!


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01 Nov 2019, 5:35 pm

Uhmmm. I tend to avoid washing too often as I tend to neglect myself. Not sure why... But I do keep myself roughly clean. Maybe a shower once a week or if I am feeling a little low, every other week etc. If I had someone who loved me I would make the effort...

I tend to stay away from people in general so it is less of an issue.

We did hae a train driver who had a problem. He was a nice man. I have not spoken to him for years as he passed away. He was 43 when he died.


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