Perfect Hearing, but I have trouble hearing

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07 Feb 2020, 1:18 pm

^^ This stuff happens sometimes for me too. Unfortunately I can be holding forth at length and then stop entirely to think, leaving someone to jump in (usually at a tangent because folks seem to have a hard time following commonsense) and then when I try to resume they react as if to say, "How DARE you talk, when I'm interrupting!"


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07 Feb 2020, 1:29 pm

^^^ yep: I get that a lot too, it’s almost as if their brains code & store information differently! :lol:
Do you also get the one where you start vocalising to make a response, but they carry on without break down an endless network of tangents that makes your head hurt?



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07 Feb 2020, 5:00 pm

^^I can't say it makes my head hurt, K, but it is rather bothersome. It's easy though. I just say that their brains work differently than mine & accept that because it's not a sin or evil or anything, it's just the way some NTs like to think.

Believe you me, Aspies can be jerks too in conversations! I have been That Guy too often & had to change the way I talk.


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07 Feb 2020, 5:28 pm

^ aye, I know :)
Meant head hurt as in physically: I’ve accepted that it’s enthusiasm coupled with a different internal way of ‘mapping’ knowledge, memories and so forth.

And I’ve definitely been That Guy... I still end up regretting on occasion attempts at humour: I can cut deep without realising I’m doing it, although it seems to be lessening as I get older :)



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07 Feb 2020, 9:47 pm

^^ I know what you're talking about with "my head hurts." Overstimulation seems to, um...overheat the CPU.

What you got to say makes sense--and I like the positive note about maturing with time & getting where your humor is not so pointed! That's awesome--gives me something to shoot for. We CAN too learn social skills! :)


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08 Feb 2020, 2:12 am

This was in a ASD memoir I read last month. The author couldn't "hear" her husband so went to the doctor and found out she has very superior hearing. I also can't hear my husband and was thinking to get my hearing checked. Now I won't. Instead I've been experimenting...

At a store the other day I could not hear him. He was four feet in front of me. I took a second and realized I could hear a fan, clicking, and most loudly: water running - from behind me. These were distracting me. He was facing these noise sources and couldn't hear them. We got up to investigate together --- sure enough the fan was 40 feet at the back of the store, something was clicking 20 feet away, but we couldn't see any running water: the sink was off. I insisted there was (loud!) water. A cashier came up and feeling crazy, I asked about running water. The cashier indicated the running water under the counter that had been only 10 feet behind me. So there!

My ASD report has the following recommendation: "She may benefit from a more secluded work environment and fewer distractions." Apparently that goes for any environment.

P.S. It related to that whole ASD brain tends to take in ALL INFORMATION (or absolutely NONE), rather than "prioritizing" information.



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08 Feb 2020, 2:19 am

Which reminds me that once my vision is corrected (with contacts or glasses), doctors have repeatedly commented and seemed surprised that it's superior. Which I haven't understood until now. So similarly, I can see very well and TAKE IN EVERYTHING, but can't see the carrot in front of my face.



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08 Feb 2020, 4:28 am

Borromeo wrote:
^^ I know what you're talking about with "my head hurts." Overstimulation seems to, um...overheat the CPU.

What you got to say makes sense--and I like the positive note about maturing with time & getting where your humor is not so pointed! That's awesome--gives me something to shoot for. We CAN too learn social skills! :)


Yeah, I have to confess that a key part of the maturing process has been my wife pointing out why what I said was inappropriate: I’ve started to spot it myself, sometimes before, sometimes after...
Last night one of her friends who struggles with rational thinking, has had a chaotic life as a result, and is currently having money troubles was visiting for dinner, and he made a weak joke about selling his brain because he never uses it, so I instantly piped up:
“One careless owner”
:wall: :wall: :wall:
Yeah. Because that’s a totally helpful comment with no callousness at all :roll:



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08 Feb 2020, 4:40 am

SharonB wrote:
Which reminds me that once my vision is corrected (with contacts or glasses), doctors have repeatedly commented and seemed surprised that it's superior. Which I haven't understood until now. So similarly, I can see very well and TAKE IN EVERYTHING, but can't see the carrot in front of my face.


Yeah, similar to report here. I can hear everything, but it’s all at the same level and focusing is a massive effort, also judging distance: I frequently end up walking round the house with a big stick in the dead of night convinced I’ve heard someone breaking in and it turns out to be the guy four doors up the road getting back from his shift!

I’ve also been told I’m abnormally visually aware, and I’ve always struggled with bright sunlight. It hurts and I hear/feel ‘wooshes’ through my head which derail pretty much everything.



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19 Feb 2021, 5:45 pm

Same! Checked my hearing recently, officially - because of pain in the ear, but onofficially thought it would explain why I don't seem to understand speech as well as other people. (Un?)fortunately, my hearing was perfect.

So it IS processing rather than hearing problem. Also made much worse by the fact that english isn't my native language. People could be talking in English right next to me and I will not hear anything unless I make effort to listen.

Online meetings have made work a bit easier. I record important meetings, later listen to recordings and pick up on everything that I have missed. It helps my understanding when I am not an active participant!



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19 Feb 2021, 6:30 pm

I have difficulty separating speech from noise. That's a neurological aspect of autism as far as I know. Or if multiple people are talking in the same room I can't separate them out. That's one of the reasons why I find spending time in crowded places so tiring.



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19 Feb 2021, 7:09 pm

Similar to some other people here, I have trouble separating "foreground" from "background" sounds. I can't have a conversation in a crowded place, or answer the phone on the bus. My hearing is very acute. Loud noises are physically painful, and when it's quiet I can hear tiny noises most people would miss. I'm a pretty decent musician, but I learned the hard way that being in a band is like sticking my head in a cement mixer for fun.


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19 Feb 2021, 7:29 pm

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I went to an ear doctor and turns out my hearing is nearly perfect, way better than most my age. But the whole reason I went to the ear doctor was that I have trouble hearing people speak. I tend to miss words even when I'm paying attention.

I try my best, but I often mishear words or I can't focus on what a person is saying.

I also have problems speaking for long periods of time, I will be talking and then I will have forgotten what I am talking about. For example,

(I've been an avid environmentalist ever since I saw a documentary on the side effects of irresponsible fracking. I'm always disheartened by the great amount of food wasted by people when they eat as well as the large amount of trash that people are always throwing on the floor. Did you know that several tons of plastic end up in the oceans every year and resulting in the deaths and mutated births of birds and fishes? It's not that difficult to throw plastic in the trash right? So we should... Uhm, what I was talking about again, I remember talking about fracking, and I'm drawing a blank, it's something something about the environment. GOD DAMN IT. it's on the tip of my mind.) Usually, it takes a bit longer than this for me to lose my place, but I cut it down for the sake of brevity.

Often it takes me a few to several minutes to remember what I was talking about.

Does anybody know if these symptoms point to a mental condition of some kind. Trouble hearing with perfect hearing, and ability to forget what you are talking about mid-conversation.


I've the same problem.

I struggle to concentrate on what's being said to me I struggle with learning from being explained something unless it's of super interest but all this is pretty impossible either way if I have a lot on my mind and no mental space to process thoughts and feelings and find solutions to problems.



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20 Feb 2021, 7:40 am

Confused_Sloth wrote:
I went to an ear doctor and turns out my hearing is nearly perfect, way better than most my age. But the whole reason I went to the ear doctor was that I have trouble hearing people speak. I tend to miss words even when I'm paying attention.

You might want to look into whether you have Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD), which is apparently common among autistic people.


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20 Feb 2021, 8:05 am

Yes, this seems pretty common. I'm the same way. Anywhere with background noise of any sort, it's almost impossible to understand speech without really concentrating, but I hear everything, all the time. Even though I have noticeable tinnitus, I still hear things "through" or maybe "around" the whistle-hiss. I'm usually the first to hear a noise unless my daughter is closer to it (she's 6, so her ears are still factory-spec.) Many times, we're the only two people in the house who hear very quiet sounds. We'll be searching for "what's making that weird noise" and my wife and mother-in-law will be totally confused, they won't hear what's making the two of us crazy. I think it's the same for her, hearing everything in the entire environment all the time.