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03 Mar 2020, 11:39 am

Shame on them for not accepting your sighting. You are right to feel what you feel. And it is super cool that you saw and identified those swans.


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03 Mar 2020, 11:42 am

Speak softly and carry a long lens.



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03 Mar 2020, 12:18 pm

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Hey you got a new profile pic! Which bird is that?

Maybe you have a reputation of being untrustworthy in those bird circles of yours? That often happens to me; since I communicate weirdly (or something), my word isn't trusted the way someone else's would be. It's like the attitude is that if you can't handle something as simple as basic social rules, there's no way you could know more than those who can about something more complicated.

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There have been co-workers who have ignored my warnings, and even tried to discredit me to push their own ideas. I usually clam up at that point and wait for the inevitable "I told you so" moment, much to their detriment.

I'm a firm believer in the "Give them enough rope and let them hang themselves" school of retribution.


But what do you do when they deny the fact that you warned them?


I think Angnix's profile picture is a mourning dove, but the picture is rather small and blurred on my end. Mourning Doves are absolutely beautiful. I used to catch the babies and the ones which had been injured by auto traffic and let them live in the house for a while until either grown or healed. They are pretty cute. Hunters like to eat them; birdwatchers put food out for them; I like them because I like all the pigeon tribe.


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03 Mar 2020, 12:21 pm

I took the Mourning Dove pic... It was really far away and I have a tremor so it wasn't perfect...


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03 Mar 2020, 12:22 pm

Angnix wrote:
I took the Mourning Dove pic... It was really far away and I have a tremor so it wasn't perfect...


Mourning doves are always perfect!


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03 Mar 2020, 12:56 pm

Hijack alert. How do you feel about Ravens?



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03 Mar 2020, 4:09 pm

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Hijack alert. How do you feel about Ravens?


Extremely intelligent!! ! In Michigan we only have them up north, here it's all American Crows....


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03 Mar 2020, 4:23 pm

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Dear_one wrote:
Hijack alert. How do you feel about Ravens?


Extremely intelligent!! ! In Michigan we only have them up north, here it's all American Crows....


They nest here, and I am intrigued by their various calls and activities, but they also seem heartless, pecking the eyes out of baby lambs. I suppose they help protect birds in general from growing cats. I'm also wishing that the Crows wouldn't chase the Owls away - they seem to hunt differently anyway.



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03 Mar 2020, 4:23 pm

Angnix wrote:
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Hijack alert. How do you feel about Ravens?
Extremely intelligent!! ! In Michigan we only have them up north, here it's all American Crows....
"Up north"? I remember mourning doves around the Lansing area in the 60s and early 70s. We even have them here in southern California.


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03 Mar 2020, 5:54 pm

Angnix wrote:
I took the Mourning Dove pic... It was really far away and I have a tremor so it wasn't perfect...
It's a beautiful pic.


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03 Mar 2020, 5:56 pm

Fnord wrote:
Angnix wrote:
Dear_one wrote:
Hijack alert. How do you feel about Ravens?
Extremely intelligent!! ! In Michigan we only have them up north, here it's all American Crows....
"Up north"? I remember mourning doves around the Lansing area in the 60s and early 70s. We even have them here in southern California.
I think they meant ravens being up north.


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03 Mar 2020, 9:29 pm

skibum wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Angnix wrote:
Dear_one wrote:
Hijack alert. How do you feel about Ravens?
Extremely intelligent!! ! In Michigan we only have them up north, here it's all American Crows....
"Up north"? I remember mourning doves around the Lansing area in the 60s and early 70s. We even have them here in southern California.
I think they meant ravens being up north.


Yes Ravens


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03 Mar 2020, 9:54 pm

I wasn't being taken seriously at work, so last year I took online advice (for women in tech) to use more confident words and the result was a complaint that I was "expressing my opinions as fact." Needless to say my current mgmt is biased (and ignorant). Thankfully I have other sources to provide validation. Still it's HARD.

I also provided proof of a project's impact which was disregarded, but then when my co-worker presented it, he was praised. I think part of this is being on the leading edge and, for me, the other part is bias against women. When I searched for more women or men in bird-watching I found: more often "men are competitive listers and […] women are casual bird watchers" --- so apparently at the time of that article, women in general are not taken as seriously b/c either most women are, or are assumed, to not be serious.