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14 May 2020, 11:11 am

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My Walmart just told me when I called them today that they now have a new thing where on Tuesday mornings from 6-7 am they only allow the elderly and disabled to shop. No one else is allowed in. So when I need to go there, that is when I will go. Check with your local Walmart to see if they are doing that same program.
Please define "elderly"?  I am 63 years old.

i think that counts oh great old Wizended one .


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14 May 2020, 2:53 pm

Thats awesome. Wal-Mart tends to stress me out most of the time.



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14 May 2020, 4:18 pm

I feel so bad about the horror stories from Walmart employees that I offer them tips "for Union dues," but I have only gone once per decade, when no other store has a product. Basically, if I wouldn't accept a job, I won't buy what it produces.



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14 May 2020, 5:51 pm

Fnord wrote:
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My Walmart just told me when I called them today that they now have a new thing where on Tuesday mornings from 6-7 am they only allow the elderly and disabled to shop. No one else is allowed in. So when I need to go there, that is when I will go. Check with your local Walmart to see if they are doing that same program.
Please define "elderly"?  I am 63 years old.


Around here it's generally 60+. Not sure about Wal-Mart specifically.



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14 May 2020, 5:55 pm

Their website says 60+. Tuesdays 6-7am, through 5/31. My guess is that it will be extended.



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14 May 2020, 6:35 pm

I don't think they will turn people away. I will definitely go during that time and they will have to let me in since I can't go any other time even though I am 53.


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14 May 2020, 8:55 pm

Walmart in my location does a kerbside pickup where you order what you want online and then drive to the store at the appointed time, where they come out very promptly and load the goodies into the trunk. No extra charge, and much easier than going into the store because they do all the work. Occasionally they'll not have this or that, but you get the chance to reject any substitutes, and if the substitute is more expensive they'll usually let you have it at the same price as the thing you asked for. Naturally, it's rather safer than going into the store, and IMO better overall. I hate crowded shops, people standing in the way, out-of-control children, horrible Walmart lighting, the silly muzak they play, and those awful shopping carts that never run in a straight line. Of course I can't browse for things in person, but it's rarely necessary in my case, as I usually only want food. I can no longer pick out the fresh food with the best expiry dates, but it's worth it for all the other benefits. I can't understand why they're doing the pickup thing (which they were doing before the virus scare started), because they lose all those in-store opportunities of getting you to buy more than you intended. Of course they might start adding a charge when people are more dependent on the pickup method, but until then, it's good. I've nothing against browsing around shops, in fact I like the idea in principle, but the aforementioned problems often ruin it for me.

I think they do the early-morning "wrinklies only" thing, but I don't like going out so early and the place is probably full of those mobility scooters - much as I sympathise with the plight of the disabled, their scooters often get in my way and I don't like the bleeping noise they make when they're reversing. And in my locale, Walmart has quite a lot of those scooters driving round even at normal times, so it's probably worse when it's nothing but old people.



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14 May 2020, 9:05 pm

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I feel so bad about the horror stories from Walmart employees that I offer them tips "for Union dues," but I have only gone once per decade, when no other store has a product. Basically, if I wouldn't accept a job, I won't buy what it produces.

I admire your sense of integrity. I still do a certain amount of political boycotting, but not when it causes me much trouble. And there are few alternatives to Walmart here. There's one called Bill's Cash Saver but they add 10% to their marked prices as well as the sales tax, so I boycott them whenever practicable.



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14 May 2020, 10:22 pm

Dear_one wrote:
I feel so bad about the horror stories from Walmart employees that I offer them tips "for Union dues," but I have only gone once per decade, when no other store has a product. Basically, if I wouldn't accept a job, I won't buy what it produces.


Right on! I refused to shop at Walmart for a very long time - all those employee lawsuits going back decades! But now I admit to going occasionally because very few stores carry toys any more. I pay attention to prices and contrary to popular belief - they are NOT cheaper.



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14 May 2020, 11:15 pm

So many people go to Walmart that it seems like one of the best places to catch the coronavirus.



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15 May 2020, 8:57 am

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I feel so bad about the horror stories from Walmart employees that I offer them tips "for Union dues," but I have only gone once per decade, when no other store has a product. Basically, if I wouldn't accept a job, I won't buy what it produces.

I admire your sense of integrity. I still do a certain amount of political boycotting, but not when it causes me much trouble. And there are few alternatives to Walmart here. There's one called Bill's Cash Saver but they add 10% to their marked prices as well as the sales tax, so I boycott them whenever practicable.
Funny, I have personal friends IRL who say that they really enjoy working for Walmart and that the pay and benefits are pretty good. And when they told me about the pay and benefits they were getting they were better than I have ever gotten at any job I have ever had and I have had almost 60 jobs. Even when I worked retail, I never had the things they get.


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15 May 2020, 9:04 am

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So many people go to Walmart that it seems like one of the best places to catch the coronavirus.
I carry a little spray bottle of alcohol in my purse along with another little spray bottle of alcohol homemade hand sanitizer. I mist every single item with alcohol before putting it into my shopping bag and then spray my hands with my homemade sanitizer. Then when I get home, I spray every single item including food and produce with hydrogen peroxide and distilled vinegar. And any produce gets thoroughly washed again before I eat it. I also disinfect the inside of my shopping bag with vinegar and peroxide or alcohol. I have always disinfected my groceries and shopping bags. But this is the first time that I am actually disinfecting items in the store before putting them into my shopping bag. I also refuse to use carts. I have not used carts in almost a decade because people put their kids in them and God only knows what they stepped in before being put into the cart. I also once saw a mom leave her kid in the food part of the cart after he pee'd on himself and on the cart. And the carts never get properly cleaned and disinfected. Even when they are outside they are not exposed to UV rays like they should be because they are under cart roofs.


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15 May 2020, 9:09 am

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So many people go to Walmart that it seems like one of the best places to catch the coronavirus.


There was a Denver suburb Walmart that got shutdown because of an outbreak at the store last month. I heard about it on the national news. Several employees were sick and a few died. It has since been “cleaned” and reopened. If I lived there, I would shop for a less risky store.



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15 May 2020, 11:37 pm

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I carry a little spray bottle of alcohol in my purse along with another little spray bottle of alcohol homemade hand sanitizer. I mist every single item with alcohol before putting it into my shopping bag and then spray my hands with my homemade sanitizer. Then when I get home, I spray every single item including food and produce with hydrogen peroxide and distilled vinegar. And any produce gets thoroughly washed again before I eat it. I also disinfect the inside of my shopping bag with vinegar and peroxide or alcohol. I have always disinfected my groceries and shopping bags. But this is the first time that I am actually disinfecting items in the store before putting them into my shopping bag. I also refuse to use carts. I have not used carts in almost a decade because people put their kids in them and God only knows what they stepped in before being put into the cart. I also once saw a mom leave her kid in the food part of the cart after he pee'd on himself and on the cart. And the carts never get properly cleaned and disinfected. Even when they are outside they are not exposed to UV rays like they should be because they are under cart roofs.

On the last couple of trips into the store (before the pandemic had really taken off) I wore disposable gloves, kept 6 feet away from everybody, picked items from the back of the shelf (to reduce the risk of previous customers having handled the items), used one gloved hand to push the cart and the other to pick up the items (which taxed my wrist). When I got outside and had loaded up the trunk and put the cart in the bay, I carefully removed the gloves, turning them inside out in the process and knotting them so as to contain any contamination.

I've never seen a child soil a cart, but I've figured that it can't be good hygeine for them to sit there, so I avoid putting stuff into that bit of the cart. I don't claim my methods are perfect, they're a compromise.

I've read that ordinary soap rapidly destroys the virus on contact and is slightly more effective than anything else, so I tend to use that for disinfecting, rather than alcohol or sanitizer, as I'm wary of those chemical things. I hope it's true.



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15 May 2020, 11:43 pm

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Funny, I have personal friends IRL who say that they really enjoy working for Walmart and that the pay and benefits are pretty good. And when they told me about the pay and benefits they were getting they were better than I have ever gotten at any job I have ever had and I have had almost 60 jobs. Even when I worked retail, I never had the things they get.

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if the received wisdom about some of these companies turned out to be rather distorted. I'm afraid the Left can be as guilty as the Right for spreading gossip and jumping to unjustified conclusions. It's long been a source of frustration for me that it's so hard to distinguish truth from propaganda. The principle of scientific rigour and honesty is a rare thing, it seems.



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16 May 2020, 10:28 am

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Funny, I have personal friends IRL who say that they really enjoy working for Walmart and that the pay and benefits are pretty good. And when they told me about the pay and benefits they were getting they were better than I have ever gotten at any job I have ever had and I have had almost 60 jobs. Even when I worked retail, I never had the things they get.

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if the received wisdom about some of these companies turned out to be rather distorted. I'm afraid the Left can be as guilty as the Right for spreading gossip and jumping to unjustified conclusions. It's long been a source of frustration for me that it's so hard to distinguish truth from propaganda. The principle of scientific rigour and honesty is a rare thing, it seems.


It is because of leftist states that retail employees have many of the rights they do. California has long been the testing grounds for class action suits that advance employee rights. Rights won sets a precedent and they are then implemented across the US, and occasionally into Canada as well. I admit cases are generally launched against Walmart on purpose because of their size and the fact that they are everywhere. But that doesn't negate the fact that they take advantage of basic employment rights.

Things like paying cashiers only once the cash box is in their hands. And not the time it takes to punch in, walk to your station, etc. Only a few minutes here and there but it adds up over time - and it hits low income earners who need those dollars the most.

Walmart specifically has a history or not giving women advancing women to management roles.

They were the first to renegotiate supplier contracts that state if product isn't sold the supplier needs to buy it back. Trust me - this had forced many smaller businesses to barely earn a living in the beginning, and some to go belly up. Now order quantities are more targeted so less and issue. But 2020 is going to be extremely difficult for those suppliers. Especially if Walmart plays the game and asks for restructuring to get out of paying their debts (like JC Penney,Neiman Marcus, to name a few).

No one is accusing them of being monsters - just wanting them to play fair.