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10 Sep 2020, 7:41 pm
Jiheisho wrote:
B.Sisko wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
This is one of the personality disorders that are not co-morbid with ASD.
You can develop or be born with any personality disorder + ASD
The information on co-morbid conditions suggests that not all personality disorders are co-morbid with ASD. Or if they are, they are rare. I am not aware of a case of ASD + NPD in any study I have read.
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10 Sep 2020, 8:29 pm
B.Sisko wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
B.Sisko wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
This is one of the personality disorders that are not co-morbid with ASD.
You can develop or be born with any personality disorder + ASD
The information on co-morbid conditions suggests that not all personality disorders are co-morbid with ASD. Or if they are, they are rare. I am not aware of a case of ASD + NPD in any study I have read.
Not sure what to make of that as only 50% of the sample fulfilled the criteria for ASD/ASC. So how does the diagnosis align? It also discusses differential diagnosis where different conditions need to be considered. It is not uncommon, for example, for females with ASD to be misdiagnosed with BPD.
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10 Sep 2020, 8:35 pm
Jiheisho wrote:
B.Sisko wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
B.Sisko wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
This is one of the personality disorders that are not co-morbid with ASD.
You can develop or be born with any personality disorder + ASD
The information on co-morbid conditions suggests that not all personality disorders are co-morbid with ASD. Or if they are, they are rare. I am not aware of a case of ASD + NPD in any study I have read.
Not sure what to make of that as only 50% of the sample fulfilled the criteria for ASD/ASC. So how does the diagnosis align? It also discusses differential diagnosis where different conditions need to be considered. It is not uncommon, for example, for females with ASD to be misdiagnosed with BPD.
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10 Sep 2020, 9:33 pm
I'm sticking with my hypothesis that he has a neurodiversity that is the flip-side of ASD. Since the current thinking on what is different about an ASD brain is a trend toward shorter neural connections, wouldn't it make sense that a brain with a trend towards longer connections than typical might have the opposite traits. Great social skills and poor analytical skills.
I also am wondering if histrionic personality disorder is the most likely diagnosis given to people with this condition.
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11 Sep 2020, 2:35 pm
Doesn't really fit the "pathological honesty" stereotype does he? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_ ... nald_Trump He's clearly got narcissism in spades. Always bragging about how well he insists he's doing, quite happy to alienate half the country and talk only to his fans, sacks and badmouths anybody who contradicts his ridiculous assertions. I've never seen him show an atom of compassion. Typical right-winger except that he also has the interpersonal style of a slob.
The idea that he's one of us fills me with revulsion. I don't see any resemblance to ASD in him.
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11 Sep 2020, 2:47 pm
LisaM1031 wrote:
I highly doubt it. A large part of how he got where he is was based off of his ability to lie and manipulate people, and to present himself as being more capable than he was. Most people who are truly on the spectrum do not have that capability. His MIT professor uncle I don’t know about, but both Trump and his father seem to show traits that are more in line with Narcissistic Personality Disorder than ASD. This is well outlined in his niece’s book.
I agree with this, NPD and ASD can get mixed up a lot but there's a specific kind of behaviour from someone with NPD that displays a strange need to hunt weak minded people and then destroy people to gain attention/satisfaction.
These people are essentially walking evil, and there is no clinical data on having a cure for this condition. The only option if you know one of these people is to get them out of your life completely and as fast as possible.
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11 Sep 2020, 3:27 pm
There's only rumours about Baron Trump being Autistic, but I've never heard Drumph being Autistic. Drumph's most likely not autistic anyways, because he has social skills, even tho he doesn't care what other people think of him. I don't care for him truthfully.
Did you read this ? Ruth Gordon sure does generalise a lot about ASD
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Remember, an individual on the spectrum has no idea that another has a mind of his/her own.
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12 Sep 2020, 5:56 am
Fnord wrote:
Romofan wrote:
Could Donald Trump be on the autism spectrum?
If it turns out that DJT is on the autism spectrum, then I'm going to do a one-eighty and start pushing for a cure.
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12 Sep 2020, 12:31 pm
I personally think it is distasteful to attribute a person’s perceived failings to a neurotype - particularly when done with only lay knowledge.
As for Trump being autistic - I don’t really see it. Sure, he doesn’t have the fancy aires and graces you might expect of a millionaire, but he doesn’t seem to have any problem making friends and he doesn’t seem, from afar, to have any of the non-social symptoms of autism.
I’m also not at all convinced by arguments based on family members. We all have allistic family members, after all. Autism has a genetic component, but it is only weakly heritable, with environmental factors like paternal age and in vitro rubella exposure also being potential causes.
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12 Sep 2020, 4:43 pm
League_Girl wrote:
No. I will just go along with what his niece says who is a psychologist.
I take her diagnosis with a HUGE, (or is it YUGE) grain of salt, as she has familial ties to the subject, thereby making her diagnosis invalid. Now, if Dr. Phil or Dr. John Grohol, owner of the website Psych Central, for example, made that diagnosis one on one with Trump, that would be a different story.