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02 Apr 2021, 10:37 am

No, I would not like to know other people's thoughts and I would not want them to know mine. I could not handle the constant noise and explanations.

If this was how it always had been and not something that just turned on one day the world would be a very different place. One thing I know though, some sort of blocker would be developed. Would also probably be able to train in a completely different way of thinking in order to mask actual thoughts.



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02 Apr 2021, 11:40 am

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Do you think you could handle having to be social and other people knowing your thoughts?


I would invite others to read my thoughts, but watch out. It is a Pandora’s box. I have a Dr. Frankenstein side of my personality that contains very dark parts. I have to code some of those thoughts from myself or I will work on them as research projects when I get bored. You just really do not want to know what most of the things are in there, as I would rather take those to my grave to protect others. My dreams are the things that go bump in the night.

As an minor example, one of my special topics as a youngster was poisons. I know way more about them than I should, even with my doctorate in chemistry. There are ways to make them more toxic if you know the background behind their effects. Back when I was actively learning about them, I extracted poisons from biological plants, combined them and used them against my school bullies. Would I want to do that to innocent people? No, I am not a terrorist. However the knowledge is always there if I need to defend myself in unusual ways.

Reading other people’s minds would be a waste of time. Most of the ones I deal with no longer think without using their smart phones to do the heavy lifting.



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02 Apr 2021, 11:52 am

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Technic1 wrote:
Do you think you could handle having to be social and other people knowing your thoughts?


I would invite others to read my thoughts, but watch out. It is a Pandora’s box. I have a Dr. Frankenstein side of my personality that contains very dark parts. I have to code some of those thoughts from myself or I will work on them as research projects when I get bored. You just really do not want to know what most of the things are in there, as I would rather take those to my grave to protect others. My dreams are the things that go bump in the night.

As an minor example, one of my special topics as a youngster was poisons. I know way more about them than I should, even with my doctorate in chemistry. There are ways to make them more toxic if you know the background behind their effects. Back when I was actively learning about them, I extracted poisons from biological plants, combined them and used them against my school bullies. Would I want to do that to innocent people? No, I am not a terrorist. However the knowledge is always there if I need to defend myself in unusual ways.

Reading other people’s minds would be a waste of time. Most of the ones I deal with no longer think without using their smart phones to do the heavy lifting.


Do you think viruses could be made poisonous??

Just asking!



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02 Apr 2021, 12:01 pm

I'd pity the poor bastard who reads my thoughts. :nerdy:


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02 Apr 2021, 12:12 pm

Technic1 wrote:
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Technic1 wrote:
Do you think you could handle having to be social and other people knowing your thoughts?


I would invite others to read my thoughts, but watch out. It is a Pandora’s box. I have a Dr. Frankenstein side of my personality that contains very dark parts. I have to code some of those thoughts from myself or I will work on them as research projects when I get bored. You just really do not want to know what most of the things are in there, as I would rather take those to my grave to protect others. My dreams are the things that go bump in the night.

As an minor example, one of my special topics as a youngster was poisons. I know way more about them than I should, even with my doctorate in chemistry. There are ways to make them more toxic if you know the background behind their effects. Back when I was actively learning about them, I extracted poisons from biological plants, combined them and used them against my school bullies. Would I want to do that to innocent people? No, I am not a terrorist. However the knowledge is always there if I need to defend myself in unusual ways.

Reading other people’s minds would be a waste of time. Most of the ones I deal with no longer think without using their smart phones to do the heavy lifting.


Do you think viruses could be made poisonous??

Just asking!



It depends upon your definition of a poison. If you are asking if they can create toxic substances in the body that act as poisons, the answer is yes for certain viruses. They can be used to produce biological damage that way. If you are asking if they are directly a poison, that is a grey area left to interpretation depending on their interaction.



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02 Apr 2021, 12:17 pm

Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?



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02 Apr 2021, 12:20 pm

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Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


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02 Apr 2021, 12:23 pm

Ya know what I’d bet?!?

I’d bet that the government learnt about telepathy, clairvoyance and such from the Nazis (who were obsessed with the occult) during project paper clip!?



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02 Apr 2021, 12:26 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


Aliens are FAR smarter than we are!

See my thread hear.

viewtopic.php?t=395775



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02 Apr 2021, 12:29 pm

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There is no valid empirical evidence to irrefutably prove the existence of telepathy. Therefore, how one "feels" about telepathy is irrelevant.
The question, therefore, is what do they think about it?
It matters not.


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02 Apr 2021, 12:31 pm

Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


Aliens are FAR smarter than we are!

See my thread hear.

viewtopic.php?t=395775


That's just like your opinion man. :nerdy:


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02 Apr 2021, 12:49 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


Aliens are FAR smarter than we are!

See my thread hear.

viewtopic.php?t=395775


That's just like your opinion man. :nerdy:


It takes 1 million light years to get to our nearest possibly inhabited planet...

...UFO!

And we can’t do that.



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02 Apr 2021, 12:53 pm

Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


Aliens are FAR smarter than we are!

See my thread hear.

viewtopic.php?t=395775


That's just like your opinion man. :nerdy:


It takes 1 million light years to get to our nearest possibly inhabited planet...

...UFO!

And we can’t do that.


Light years are a measure of distance, not time.

No extraterrestrial life has visited here so hypothetically if they exist there's no reason to assume their achievements are beyond our own. If you have concrete evidence of extraterrestrial life visiting that might lend credibility to your position, but I doubt you've got more evidence than Tom DeLonge (who has zero conclusive evidence).

Further, individual intelligence isn't the most important element in what a group can achieve. A genius can just as easily end up an outcast with no influence which is why I suggest that a hivemind might be more effective for an advanced species.


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02 Apr 2021, 1:22 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


Aliens are FAR smarter than we are!

See my thread hear.

viewtopic.php?t=395775


That's just like your opinion man. :nerdy:


It takes 1 million light years to get to our nearest possibly inhabited planet...

...UFO!

And we can’t do that.


Light years are a measure of distance, not time.

No extraterrestrial life has visited here so hypothetically if they exist there's no reason to assume their achievements are beyond our own. If you have concrete evidence of extraterrestrial life visiting that might lend credibility to your position, but I doubt you've got more evidence than Tom DeLonge (who has zero conclusive evidence).

Further, individual intelligence isn't the most important element in what a group can achieve. A genius can just as easily end up an outcast with no influence which is why I suggest that a hivemind might be more effective for an advanced species.


Ok but...

We would all have to like each other, get along and not be evil for a hive mind.

Plus if we were ever at war with aliens, it only takes one person to mess up and the world is screwed.

And I thought a light year was the amount of time it takes for light to travel which is 670,616,629 miles per hour?!

So it’s a speed?



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02 Apr 2021, 1:36 pm

Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Technic1 wrote:
Do you think (if) aliens exist with their bigger and way more advanced than us brains would be capable of telepathy?


I wouldn't assume alien life would be smarter than us, or that greater intellect would be required for telepathy.

Individually they don't need to be very intelligent if they can harness their collective intellect better than us and telepathy would be the easiest means by which to do that.


Aliens are FAR smarter than we are!

See my thread hear.

viewtopic.php?t=395775


That's just like your opinion man. :nerdy:


It takes 1 million light years to get to our nearest possibly inhabited planet...

...UFO!

And we can’t do that.


Light years are a measure of distance, not time.

No extraterrestrial life has visited here so hypothetically if they exist there's no reason to assume their achievements are beyond our own. If you have concrete evidence of extraterrestrial life visiting that might lend credibility to your position, but I doubt you've got more evidence than Tom DeLonge (who has zero conclusive evidence).

Further, individual intelligence isn't the most important element in what a group can achieve. A genius can just as easily end up an outcast with no influence which is why I suggest that a hivemind might be more effective for an advanced species.


Ok but...

We would all have to like each other, get along and not be evil for a hive mind.

Plus if we were ever at war with aliens, it only takes one person to mess up and the world is screwed.


I'm not sure I agree with any of your assumptions.

Any alternative model of intelligence would involve trade-offs compared to our own. In order for that model to exist it would have to solve any potentially fatal flaws so it's always fair to assume that an obvious fatal flaw hasn't been incorporated and to consider how any non-fatal flaws impact how that model performs.

For a eusocial life form operating as part of a collective is obligatory so the things you suggest would be required but not far-fetched.

The less eusocial the hypothetical life is the more tolerant of competing interests it would have to be, but again since this is the only way it could work it's not far-fetched to assume it would be capable of dealing with those issues. It would be far-fetched to assume it's not capable of dealing with those issues because if it were to be incapable it would have failed long before we ever become aware of them.

If an alien species were to be substantially more advanced than us there's no way that contact with us could break their society. That said, if we're not useful and not likely to be compatible they'd have no reason to engage with us.


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And I thought a light year was the amount of time it takes for light to travel which is 670,616,629 miles per hour?!

So it’s a speed?


No, it's the amount of distance something would cover in one year travelling at the speed of light.

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The light-year is a unit of length used to express astronomical distances and is equivalent to about 9.46 trillion kilometres (9.46×1012 km) or 5.88 trillion miles (5.88×1012 mi). As defined by the International Astronomical Union (IAU), a light-year is the distance that light travels in vacuum in one Julian year (365.25 days).


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