What would and Autistic Country be like?

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That would be pretty much impossible. Autism itself is a developmental disorder and such delays are what make people autistic. By an large, an autistic country will be an extremely immature country with a population full of individuals with almost zero coping strategies and mostly unable to handle keeping the essentials in operation.

Farms won't be used.
Transport will be dire.
Heavy industry will be gone.
The population will plummet.
Those who can contribute will be working like dogs to keep everyone else alive.
There will probably be denial over the lack of births.
The country will be woefully undefended.

Tensions will reach boiling point....people find it hard enough looking after 1 aspie at McDonald's but imagine 3 or 4 to look after permanently per 1 person in work.

Many aspies can barely go to the local shop without having a meltdown.

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Being on a hair trigger and folding like a wet tissue under even the smallest amount of stress is what aspies do best. A loud toilet flush can set some off.

Being a spectrum, they will also never see eye to eye.

I don't think you, me or a lot of other members here will look forward to such an unending babysitting session. It's an interesting concept, actually one of the most interesting ones put on this thread recently but the devil will be in the detail.

Yes I do understand that because autism has some developmental delays as a rule with deficits in social and communication skills but however not all the delays make people autistic because stuff like not being able to live on your own doesn't make someone autistic. However with the abnormalities in behaviours with things like interests autism can mean a lot of autistics can most definitely be ahead in other things such as intellect and other special interests. What I mostly mean by developmental delays are those where a severe case of autism can result in a 15 year old having the mental capacity of a 5 year old and not being able to live on your own because of it besides a lot of people without autism can have developmental delays to. What you said about farms not being used and heavy industry would be false because a lot of autistic people have special interests and besides there are a lot of immature countries and societies out there as well and not all aspies have meltdowns.

I think Britannica defines autism perfectly: A group of neurobiological disorders that is characterized by deficits in social and communication as well as abnormalities in behaviors, interests, and activities.

Socially yes, autism is of course going to have developmental delays as a rule according to the definition but however developmental delays are far more than just social and communication skills and are also prevalent in people without autism as well. Autism according to that definition says deficits in social and communication skills which I am not beating around the bush but by developmental delays I mean things such as not being able to live on your own and having the mental capacity of a toddler as an adult which can happen autism or not. Autism can also mean an autistic can be ahead of many aspects to especially when it comes to special interests.

A great power in any way you want to define it. Your of course going to even out the gender ratio because having 4 to 5 males for every female is a recipe for instability and you will have colonial Canada especially when it was a fur trading colony with its very sparse population.

I think to keep a country running there needs to be a breadth of people with a general interest and not a depth of interest from a few.

The problem with an autistic country is these special interests are often not very helpful and are niche. The more bread and butter skillset needed to keep the basics running requires a large proportion of the population to participate in and this is where everything will soon fall apart.

Broadly speaking, autistics much prefer interests that they can do from home and in isolation which is contrary the essence of keeping essentials in working order. transport hubs, making sure farms are used, keeping concrete, steel and water in healthy stock, power stations need to be kept running. Basically all the jobs autistics have a long tradition of hating.

Also the developmental problems might get a lot worse without NT's to keep a lid on them. Being a hermit or acting like a mental cripple in public will be normalized along with not working, not reproducing and not being able to transport oneself.

Of the autistics that have no problems holding their own, they have to deal with and look after the mountains of less able ones. The mental health of the more able autistics will also take a nosedive as a result.

I'd be the prime minister.

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The bottom line: People have to cooperate with each other. People have to spend time with each other. People have to discuss things, and have disagreements during these discussions. They can't just withdraw into themselves whenever a crisis happens (or when being invaded by another country). People have to "put their best foot forward" always.

I'm not "low-functioning," by any means. But I am not always able to "put my best foot forward."

Autistic people can be, and often are, very useful people.....but within a society which can defend itself, which can clean up after a disaster, and which can function in a cooperative sense.

Like I said, if there were a million Krafties in a country, the country wouldn't last much more than a few days.

I agree. I think a country where it is all the same of anything would be a disaster.

Well good news for you, we're not all the same. As if that was ever up for debate.


I get there's a few broken men on this sub, and they truly believe the best way to help someone is to break them. But it doesn't line up with reality.

As your initial quotation suggestion autism is a social deficit in communication, socialization, and more or less having a unique set of desires and motivations. For a whole lot of people that is all it is.

The idea of an autistic country or whatever doesn't mean some scenario where it's either utopia or hell on earth. This kind of thinking isn't in line with how the world works.

Even in NT populations a massive number of people can't find work, are dependent on drugs, end up in prison etc.

The question isn't whether or not it'd be some utopia, it's whether or not people who may already be struggling or under performing would be better off on some metric.

The obvious benefit is a society structured around people who have communication and social deficits. The obvious solution is less reliance on non verbal communication, and more based on verbal/literal communication. You don't need to have a phd in social engineering to reason out how that would work.

The 2nd bit is structuring a society where motivation and cooperation are better aligned. A concept that doesn't exist in our society, as least not for us. One of the most powerful forces in nt society that supersedes the desire to fight and conflict is the desire for greater social status. In our case you don't have to look far to see where things go off the rails. If you aren't capable of being motivated by rising your social standing you're gonna be left out on the principle that structures our planet.

Finally the issue people actually care about, would it be easier to find a partner? Logically you'd have to assume yes, which on its own could have transformative effects on a group of people.

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How is this country going to decide who is autistic? I see this as a massive obstacle.

An autistic country wouldn’t last more than a couple of generations….this is because of the low rate of procreation amongst autistic folks in general.

I think the trains would go perfect, never late, always on time and nothing would ever change because no one like a change anyway.

This is overlooked I feel. Because it's not an immediate problem by the time the country realises it's a serious.issie it'll already be too late.

For the sake of actually keeping the country going work, reproduction and leaving the house will need to become mandatory and penalties for those not falling into line.