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13 Aug 2007, 8:22 pm

Neanthumain....Well written and you make some good points.At some point I will start a thread with similiar "contrasts" in AS and Border-line Personality Disorder...something many aspie females get misDXed with by Psychs with no AS education.

One good point you make is that "behavior" is not the "pathology",internal motivation is.Psychopaths and some AS may share some behavior traits but the "cause" of the behavior if very different.To only record the behavior and not the "thought" behind the behavior is sloppy science and demostrates a very superficial understanding of the "human condition".Some of the "aspie" theorists appear to lack a real ability to understand the perspective of the aspie experience.They attribute NT motives to aspie actions with little attempt to "think through" the uniquness of the aspie experience.I think they lack true ToM.They know that other people have differnt thoughts,feelings,etc but seem to have little imagination to get into an aspie pair of shoes(which is really a shame as we tend to wear very comfrtable shoes :wink: and they might think more clearly if their feet weren't so pinched by their tight shoes.


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14 Aug 2007, 4:44 pm

krex wrote:
Neanthumain....Well written and you make some good points.At some point I will start a thread with similiar "contrasts" in AS and Border-line Personality Disorder...something many aspie females get misDXed with by Psychs with no AS education.

This sounds interesting; I've written a similar post before, but it's interesting to see what other people think the differences are. I really don't see Asperger's syndrome and borderline personality disorder as very similar at all.



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15 Aug 2007, 7:00 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
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That was an excellent comparison.



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16 Aug 2007, 4:34 am

That was interesting NeantHumain. I have to confess that I didn't know hardly anything about psychopaths until now, eventhough I am thinking of being a psychiatrist when I grow up lol. I could just diagnose everyone on Monday with Schizophrenia, Tuesday-Thursday with Depression, Friday with AS, and then on the weekend I could just say nothing is wrong! jk/lol Maybe that's how some psychiatrists diagnose their patients...jk/lol


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16 Aug 2007, 11:52 am

Sylvius wrote:
Before I ever heard about high-functioning autism, I wondered if I was a psychopath because I honestly didn't care how people felt, but I didn't care because I didn't know, and that's the relevant difference.

Me too. I don't think I've ever told anyone that, although I've always felt it didn't quite work for me: I do care, it just feels like it's in a slightly disconnected, intellectual, analytical way much of the time.


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16 Aug 2007, 2:23 pm

aspiegirl2 wrote:
I could just diagnose everyone on Monday with Schizophrenia, Tuesday-Thursday with Depression, Friday with AS, and then on the weekend I could just say nothing is wrong! jk/lol Maybe that's how some psychiatrists diagnose their patients...jk/lol


Couldn't be any less reliable than the current methods of diagnosis.


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16 Aug 2007, 3:24 pm

Sylvius wrote:
Before I ever heard about high-functioning autism, I wondered if I was a psychopath because I honestly didn't care how people felt, but I didn't care because I didn't know, and that's the relevant difference.


I felt the same too!


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