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30 Sep 2007, 6:24 pm

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Still whenever I see a topic about fake Aspies, I'm sure it makes us undiagnosed folks feel uncomfortable.

Exactly, and we should not be making you feel uncomfortable just because you don't have an "official" diagnosis. I knew I was an Aspie before I was diagnosed, the doctor telling me did not suddenly "make" me autistic where before I had been normal.


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30 Sep 2007, 6:43 pm

I am from the WP second generation (I tend to think of this one as the 3rd generation), a member since 2005, April or thereabouts. WP has definitely changed, but then it's full of people and people aren't static, but changing, learning, old people leave, some stay, new people come along. WP is a dynamic entity so change is inevitable.

There seems to be a lot of NT accusations floating around these days, perhaps moreso now because WP is simply bigger, it has more people, so there's more conflicts. It's not a small homey community, it is a large metropolitan, and this changes the dynamic.

I for one don't really care about NT versus autistic. If someone has self-dxed or is in the process of self-exlploration, then I trust whatever conclusions they come to because it is not my business to judge what label they're "worthy" of. Labels are labels, and people are people, autistic or not.

If I get along with someone, I don't care what they call themselves. So to me, accusing someone of stealing my diagnosis without "earning" it isn't an issue. I don't think about it. It's not important to me because autism isn't some card-holding club. I have been excluded and different enough in my lifetime; I don't want to do the same to someone else if they want to be a part of my community, whoever they are. They are welcome.

Having felt segregated because of who I am and how I act, I find there are two roads the Segregated follow: either they have used that experience to try and then seek revenge and exclude others to "get a bit of their own back" (the bullied becoming the bully), or they try and not make the same mistake others have made and attempt to welcome people regardless.

I strive to be one of the latter.


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30 Sep 2007, 7:57 pm

What I love about this place is the range. Like this thread. It is who we are today.

Everything from passing in the world to dealing with being excluded, to tolerance of self and others.

As is about the only thing we have in common, and then more or less. Not everyone goes for fur, fans, clothing labels, but we all do something.

I do not hold much hope of understanding the world, or being understood.

Perhaps the younger do, I wish them the best, but Know Thy Self, is still good advice.

I am, it is not something I fear, hide from, or could hide from others.

I have applied some of the traits to great result. I did not get locked up, I got Patents.

Before WP I thought there was an Inventor Gene. How did so much good come from such a small group.

I also saw related fields, music, writing, as few who did much.

Discovering WP I have learned of what links all of them.

Tesla was always my ideal, how his mind worked. I own a lot of original writing from the time, and am not alone in seeing his greatness. Now I discover he was classic AS.

It is a trait with a wide range, which I am exploring.

I have discovered myself, my tribe, my world, on WP.

Another suprise is how little we disagree, when we have conflicting views.

Everywhere else it gets worse, sides form, words get harsher.

Here becomes a circle, with revolving sides. The ideas are explored from all angles, a general agreement forms from what seemed opposing parties. Those who join in bring light to side issues, and an the end, the subject has been aspied to death, and flees from boredom.

Trolls would start a pro and anti troll discussion, with all points brought up, and the troll would be long gone before it was over.

Excluded from the world then gathered on WP. Cultures of one, most with bad reactions to how they were treated, coming together as a culture of ?????????

Whatever it is I like it. Being spinning things, the touch of fur, living or not, collecting, obsessions, pondering over volumes of ancient and forgoten lore, living for who you are in your heart, is living.

I am new to dealing with humans I like. Dogs and machines were my world.

I do not want to cure my best skills, I want to know them and develop them.



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30 Sep 2007, 8:56 pm

I've been on this site for awhile, not as long as some people on here, but I'm a regular since I've joined, and saw changes too! I think people are pretending to be "on the spectrum" maybe wish they were, because we're so cool :lol: jk, but yea I don't know why anybody would fake being "Autistic". I was diagnosed almost 4 years ago, and I'm so happy I found this site, I think its one of the best sites I've ever been to, helps me a lot. As far as NTs, I know some are on here to help understand us alittle better.


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30 Sep 2007, 9:18 pm

I am just here because I am heavily prone to get addicted to message boards. I don't claim to have AS because I have never been diagnosed with it....I don't wanna be seen as a "fake Aspie"...The mission statement says this is an ADD-friendly site, and I have been diagnosed with ADD.... I have alot of AS symptoms (though maybe not all)...and have grown up with assorted developmental problems....many of which seem to run in the family.

I like this board better than my old ADD board...possibly because there is less talk of medication...and I am more comfortable here in general for some reason.

Anywhoo.... I hope that I am not one of the nuisance members...



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30 Sep 2007, 9:22 pm

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I am just here because I am heavily prone to get addicted to message boards. I don't claim to have AS because I have never been diagnosed with it....I don't wanna be seen as a "fake Aspie"...The mission statement says this is an ADD-friendly site, and I have been diagnosed with ADD.... I have alot of AS symptoms (though maybe not all)...and have grown up with assorted developmental problems....many of which seem to run in the family.

I like this board better than my old ADD board...possibly because there is less talk of medication...and I am more comfortable here in general for some reason.

Anywhoo.... I hope that I am not one of the nuisance members...


Nah your not a nuisance at all, I love to see what you write...


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30 Sep 2007, 9:56 pm

I came to this place through a friend at work who believes she may have AS.
I have thought so for several years now.

I saw this site on the computer at work and since I was interested in learning more about AS specifically because of my friend, I came here to check it out.

I joined shortly after reading some of the posts... more like immediately after.

Initially, although ADD/HD is listed in the intro of the home page along with AS, etc., I still felt like maybe I didn't belong here.
Two reasons:
1. My friend was here first and I didn't want to intrude somewhere she might feel 'safe' talking about personal things
(as I have done... ad nauseam :roll:). I have asked her about this and she stated it was okay since it was a public forum. If she changed her mind, I would really consider leaving depending on us talking about it first. I don't know if she posts here or if she justs looks in sometimes.

2. Although I have identified with things people here have talked about (and they have identified with things I have written), I didn't want anyone thinking I was trying to 'fake' being Aspie.
I make sure that I:
a. state my ADD/HD status clearly from time-to-time especially with certain posts.
b. do not comment on threads where the opinions or experiences requested are from Aspies only.

For earthmom...

The brain is a wildly complex thing. For whatever reasons, I certainly believe that some people in this world might find solace here posing as an Aspie even if they knew for sure they were not. People will go to some pretty far out extremes to satisfy an urge.


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30 Sep 2007, 10:08 pm

I agree Adrie. Imagining someone sitting at a computer claiming to have AS for some kind of weird amusement is baffling. Maybe because I have AS I don't see the logic in that and the only conclusion is they have some sort of psychological problem. Whether it's needing attention or whatever but why on an AS board? I would think that would be boring.

Age1600, I've wondered too if people do it because it makes them feel superior or cool. I imagine some nerdy 17 year rolling laughing thinking we're all sitting here rocking and stimming, typing and flapping our hands in between sentences. If that's the case, then they just need to grow up and get a life.

I joined here last year but back in February I lost the internet so I couldn't get on here, but just got it back a few weeks ago so here I am again. There are some people I remember seeing here I don't see now and there were those I suspected didn't have AS. There were a lot of posts that were unrelated to AS and it felt to me like I was on a message board with a lot of NT's taking over the message board. It was frustrating, even more so when I would post something about AS and hardly noone would reply. It seemed like the moderators weren't doing a thing about it either. So I didn't mind losing the internet when I did but now that I'm back it seems most posts are AS related so that's good to see.

I've wondered too if some people think they have AS when really they just have social phobia or just issues with people in general. I could see some people thinking AS is just a social problem thing so they think they have it.

Sophist, I see what you're saying. I don't mind people being here no matter who or what they are. What I don't like is when they post things not related to AS here when there's a message board on WP designed for subjects not related to AS.

I come here because it helps me cope with my AS and it's really supportive. If someone don't have AS and they are helping me by being here then I'm glad they're here.

So poopylungstuffing...thank you for your honesty and no, you are certainly not a nuisance.



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30 Sep 2007, 10:11 pm

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What I love about this place is the range. Like this thread. It is who we are today.

Everything from passing in the world to dealing with being excluded, to tolerance of self and others.

As is about the only thing we have in common, and then more or less. Not everyone goes for fur, fans, clothing labels, but we all do something.

I do not hold much hope of understanding the world, or being understood.

Perhaps the younger do, I wish them the best, but Know Thy Self, is still good advice.

I am, it is not something I fear, hide from, or could hide from others.

I have applied some of the traits to great result. I did not get locked up, I got Patents.

Before WP I thought there was an Inventor Gene. How did so much good come from such a small group.

I also saw related fields, music, writing, as few who did much.

Discovering WP I have learned of what links all of them.

Tesla was always my ideal, how his mind worked. I own a lot of original writing from the time, and am not alone in seeing his greatness. Now I discover he was classic AS.

It is a trait with a wide range, which I am exploring.

I have discovered myself, my tribe, my world, on WP.

Another suprise is how little we disagree, when we have conflicting views.

Everywhere else it gets worse, sides form, words get harsher.

Here becomes a circle, with revolving sides. The ideas are explored from all angles, a general agreement forms from what seemed opposing parties. Those who join in bring light to side issues, and an the end, the subject has been aspied to death, and flees from boredom.

Trolls would start a pro and anti troll discussion, with all points brought up, and the troll would be long gone before it was over.

Excluded from the world then gathered on WP. Cultures of one, most with bad reactions to how they were treated, coming together as a culture of ?????????

Whatever it is I like it. Being spinning things, the touch of fur, living or not, collecting, obsessions, pondering over volumes of ancient and forgoten lore, living for who you are in your heart, is living.

I am new to dealing with humans I like. Dogs and machines were my world.

I do not want to cure my best skills, I want to know them and develop them.


A beautiful sentiment, Inventor. :)


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30 Sep 2007, 10:14 pm

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Sophist, I see what you're saying. I don't mind people being here no matter who or what they are. What I don't like is when they post things not related to AS here when there's a message board on WP designed for subjects not related to AS.


Yes, General does get a bit messy sometimes. But with such high traffic, I suppose it's a miracle that the majority of threads are ASC-related. ;)


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30 Sep 2007, 10:16 pm

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I find all the accusations against "fake aspies" to be quite amusing and somewhat reminiscent of the Red Scare or Senator McCarthy's wild accusations.

Haha :lol:

If there are NTs on the WP pretending to be real live Aspies, it must be due to some identity crisis or psychological problems, right? And I imagine they'd get bored because AS is NOT THEM and they'd move on after a few posts.

It's hard to fake what you don't have for very long. Any Aspie who has tried to pass as an NT can attest to that...


I agree...anyone pretending to be an aspie must have psychological problems. I mean, I don't understand why someone would want to pretend to have poor social skills and come onto this site and complain about their (fake) problems.
I have tried to pass as NT...and yes, it did not last very long at all. I did get bored trying to pass as NT because I find "small talk" confusing and pointless, which did not help me succeed in my "NT act". And I guess people must have noticed that I was acting different (or trying to). :lol:
Oops...I think I went way off the subject.


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30 Sep 2007, 10:29 pm

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poopylungstuffing wrote:
I am just here because I am heavily prone to get addicted to message boards. I don't claim to have AS because I have never been diagnosed with it....I don't wanna be seen as a "fake Aspie"...The mission statement says this is an ADD-friendly site, and I have been diagnosed with ADD.... I have alot of AS symptoms (though maybe not all)...and have grown up with assorted developmental problems....many of which seem to run in the family.

I like this board better than my old ADD board...possibly because there is less talk of medication...and I am more comfortable here in general for some reason.

Anywhoo.... I hope that I am not one of the nuisance members...


Nah your not a nuisance at all, I love to see what you write...

Me too, poopy! I always enjoy your posts. :)



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30 Sep 2007, 10:29 pm

I just read some of the posts on the Internet troll thread and some seem to think it's worse now than what it used to be, one even mentioned it wasn't that bad back in February. So I don't know, maybe the non-related to AS posts just come in phases.



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30 Sep 2007, 10:41 pm

On second thought, I should add....again, there are some posts that may not be directly related to AS that I think are interesting, I'm not completely hard core, has to be AS or nothing. Like the weighted blankets thing. Hmm.

different, you sure got my attention with this one.

Ok, I'll shut up now, I'm going to bed.



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I have a chinchilla, apparently I need 99 more to make a worthwhile garment. I did not so much collect him as have him dumped off on me. He certainly has a nice pelt, but is rather attached to it, so I will not be commandeering it to start a fur collection. I did have a collection of clothing labels when I was a kid (you know the tag label with the price and stuff that you cut off when you first wear a garment). I think I got to over 400 (I would pull them out and organise them into various groupings and count them for up to several hours, most days, for a period of a couple of years).


Oh my gosh I thought that I was the only one who collected clothing price tags!! ! Oh yay i'm not


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31 Oct 2007, 1:44 pm

I've been on...what, 6 months? I keep hearing about these supposed fake AS people, but I never hear who they supposedly are. Hopefully no one thinks that about me, I mean I'm up front about myself in all my posts. It's possible I don't have it, and I'm up front about that too (if I don't, SOMETHING's sure wrong/different about me).

I guess I'd like a smaller message board though just because I can't keep track of all these threads and all these people. I'd probably do better with a small group, maybe get to have some friends :(