Gay and Aspie

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Hey, it's cool, we just have different opinions. Out of curiosity though, were the people who "switched sides" women who went from dating men to dating women? I personally think there exists a significant percentage of women who are bi but don't completely realize it and just date men by default.

Your logic is as circular as the concrete noun in your username.

I "switched sides" but I never liked the first side I was on anyway.

I've met a few aspy girls who have no sexual preference. It got me wonderiing if NT girls usually adapt to what society wants and that's how they become heterosexual. Aspies are too independent to follow the hred automatically. Boys seem to have distinct preferences way more than girls.

Being gay has no bearing on whether someone is on the autistic spectrum. People on this message board are capable of sexual orientations just like NTs.

There is no sexual orientation, it is abstract of thought. The absolute is what is required for reproduction. Therefore the abstract must become an absolute for it to be truly abstract.

Well, I'm openly gay (not so hard if you live in California). I can definitely and unequivocably tell you it is indeed possible to be gay and successful. Just look at Tom Cruise. Kidding! NOT.
Seriously, if your friend needs any advice or someone to talk to and to confide in, just let me know. It's sometimes really hard to come out and to have the guts to be who you truly are. Any little bit helps...

That's my situation as I'm going M to F. However I do know that the therapy I beenin for gender over these past four years has also really helped me with socialization skills and just being a nicer, more outgoing person.

I think that being an Aspie is hard, being gay can be hard, but put together there should be no more difficulty than either one or the other.

I like gay people, they usually accepted me a lot better than straight people did. And I think Aspie people would generally be more welcoming to gay people than other people might.

Gay and Aspie, we have something in common - we're different to the "normals".

Plus a lot of people are nervous around us just because we don't think like they do.

I think your friend will do just fine.

I feel bad to say it, but i was thinking the same thing but didnt want to say it because i would be labelled 'troll' again after my last ordeal.
I have to back this guy up, i feel hes outnumbered just like myself

I read some books on sexuality and the mind, there is some evidence to show that aspergers is just excessive testosterone exposure in the womb causing a mind wired too far on the masculine side.

Homosexuality is caused by a lack of testosterone exposure which of course makes it impossible to be 'both'.

Dont get mad at us for thinking this way, we are all different and lots of different types claim the title of 'asperger'.

For the sake of avoiding conflict, I accept the possibility of a gay, female or whatever other kind of asperger you can think of.

One thing that makes me mad from time to time in these arguments though is that excessive masculine minds are few and far between, but gays are much more common so In an argument that discredits those that im arguing with i don't think i can win considering the is a 1:15 ratio.

Oh man. You make me laugh buddy, really you do.

testosterone exposure In the womb, its chosen before birth of course.

It's not the testosterone that changes you, its what the testosterone Does to your brain while its still being put together.

According to our extremely unscientific WP poll, a little over 10% of male aspies who expressed a sexual preference were gay, and about 15% were bi. 76% of the females who expressed a preference said that they were lesbian or bisexual. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt43507.html

I take that as a sign that it's not only possible, but common.

Those figures look rather normal to me.

That is another 'misconception' (or assumption) about sexuality, namely that one is either homo- or heterosexual.



Two fairly shaky theories combined do not qualify as 'fact'.

The gay guys I know can be feminine in mannerisms, natural physical appearance (I'm talking killer hips!), and social openness but not for a second are they not men. They show abundant signs of testosterone - extremely low voices, excessive facial, chest and other hairs. They are feminine but they are overwhelmingly masculine. They are men, not women.

A good friend of mine is a gay guy, he also has AS. Now are you saying he is not gay (he is attracted to men only, women do not get it up) or not Aspie (he ranks high on the AS spectrum)? He was diagnosed way before he ever came out, but not before it was every obvious that he was gay. His doctors are smart cookies and seem a-okay with him being both AS and GAY.

By the way, I'm AS and Gay (Lesbian, if you must and very feminine. *curtsy*).

I understand your entitled to your opinion and do not want this to come across as argumentative or oppressive and I'm not trying to label you "troll" . It's a little confusing, thats all, to tell me I can't be what I am. Or to say my friends are not what they are, or even more dangerous, can't be what they are?

Another thing, "homosexuality is caused by lack of testosterone exposure"? On what basis - state your sources! As far as I've heard, and as a lesbian have read much on the subject, there is no known "cause", especially no known "definitive cause". Testosterone levels vary through all sexualities and gay testosterone levels do vary but the basis for homosexuality and testosterone is like saying your a lesbian based on your finger size - it has been known to be evident, but it is not a majority or a "cause", merely a "curio".

Here is a link to an interesting study that says gay men often exhibit more testosterone than straight men:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199706/h ... -biology/3

but that the level of testosterone post-birth or pre-birth does not conclusively point in either direction.

Unfortunately I can't find any direct reference but I've read numerous times in AS related articles that there is an increased prevalence in same-sex attraction in AS persons, as well as an increased finger ratio ... hmmm...