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12 Oct 2007, 2:24 am

Insults, badmouthing NTs, it's pointless. I don't like the Generalisation of NTs as all the same, because it's most certainly not true. There are different NTs, with different types of attitude, just as there are different types of Aspie. Some aspies are very nasty, just like some NTs.


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12 Oct 2007, 2:39 am

I don't really badmouth them all that much..I mean....I have had complaints about the behavior of certain NT's...and it's affect on me.



12 Oct 2007, 2:42 am

If some NT's weren't such wanks towards us, they wouldn't be bashed by us. I enjoy seeing them bashed. I know there are good ones out there but when NT's get bashed, I take it only the bad ones are being bashed, not the good ones.




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No, IQ just has no part in any of the ASD diagnoses, but with Asperger's Syndrome there must not be a delay in language and cognitive development at the age of 2.



According to that I don't really have AS so therefore I must be autistic but yet I am still diagnosed with it. I had the diagnoses when I was about two but my parents denied it. I development delayed until I was about 5. I'd say six because I started talking correctly so I was easy to understand. But the important thing is I am on the spectrum so it probably doesn't matter what label I have.



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12 Oct 2007, 2:53 am

fock NTs what a load of pricks they should keep to themselves and let <10% of the population control the world then they would see WHAT IS UP

well not serious about that but when you think about it certain things really dont have to be disadvantages its just that however many percent do it this way and if you dont you are the odd man out. it isnt their fault for not being the odd man out, so stop the hate. we ALL brothers



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12 Oct 2007, 4:17 am

It always depends on the NT. Some are horrible... :( a lot are nice but unfortunately lack empathy... :(
Some you can rely on though as good friends. :)


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12 Oct 2007, 5:29 am

Really thank you for this post. Amen. I don't like badmouthing. I think it's pretty horrible and in the end it injures a lot of people, the speaker included and is just a very lame pastime all round.


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12 Oct 2007, 5:59 am

I've got nothing against NTs. All my friends are NTs, and most of them are patient, social and outgoing people. Without them I'd be a lonely hermit.



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12 Oct 2007, 6:11 am

Reodor_Felgen wrote:
I've got nothing against NTs. All my friends are NTs, and most of them are patient, social and outgoing people. Without them I'd be a lonely hermit.


ditto.


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12 Oct 2007, 8:28 am

Thank you for posting this! I've been wanting to post something like this myself. I know nobody is really thinking this, but from the way it sounds sometimes, I've been wondering when Aspies actually figured out how to gain a monopoly on intelligence, haha. Maybe someday... (I repeat: I know nobody actually thinks this, I'm just joking.) :D



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12 Oct 2007, 8:33 am

I don't really have problem wid NTs but some of dem have bullied me in da past n therefore i prefer 2 b friends wid ppl wid AS.



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12 Oct 2007, 8:37 am

Mw99 wrote:
Some Aspergeans from this forum have described NTs as individuals who tend to make broad sweeping statements and often communicate their ideas even before they are done thinking them through. They have also been described as being illogical and emotional.

Those are sweeping generalizations.

The problem is that since some NTs are dumb, we have grown accustomed to associate NTs with idiots. Let's be logical and remember that not all NTs are dumb; some are actually very intelligent and can think logically.

(It's good to know that aspies, by definition, are not dumb.)


Erm yeah but unlike NTs, we don't generalise.

And NTs ARE illogical and emotional. The two go hand in hand. They are emotionally led, for the most part. I'm not saying aspies aren't, though. They just don't know how to express it as well as they can.

We have not grown accustomed to associate NTs with idiots. Hell, I've come in contact with aspies who are idiots.

Think about the many aspies on this forum that are actually MARRIED to and parent NTs.

I'm afraid it is you who has generalised, in terms of the aspie community on this board.


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12 Oct 2007, 8:58 am

LadyMacbeth wrote:

Erm yeah but unlike NTs, we don't generalise.

And NTs ARE illogical and emotional. The two go hand in hand. They are emotionally led, for the most part. I'm not saying aspies aren't, though. They just don't know how to express it as well as they can.

We have not grown accustomed to associate NTs with idiots.





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12 Oct 2007, 9:40 am

Well, I don't tend to generalize NT's, if that's what you call them, but if they do something stupid or mislabel us, that individual NT might be considered a moron, at least according to observations. Of course, I have met NT's that are actually nicer, kinder, and not so ignorant. A few of my friends are like that. There are a few NT's who aren't so full of themselves that they can accept other people for being the way they are. But most NT's are sensitive, so I can't really relate with them or their emotions. I'm like a robot to them.


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12 Oct 2007, 9:50 am

Saying that "most x are y" is generalizing just as much as saying "all x are y."

So yes. Apparently you *do* generalize NTs.



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12 Oct 2007, 10:20 am

Anyone with the ability to reason well should be able to realise that in any group, there are going to be good ones, bad ones, mediocre ones, annoying ones etc etc.

I've met many NTs, know some of them very well. Others are passing acquaintances. We all have. Its the nature of the world. All we can do is speak from experience. In my experience, most of them are annoying weirdos. I havent met all of them yet though, and there are ALWAYS exceptions.

I would like to think that people are intelligent enough to understand the nature of generalisation. There are unspoken parts to the sentence, qualifiers we assume people will understand.

So if I state that most NTs lack a decent understanding of Autism, there will be the unspoken point that I am fully aware some understand it very well, and that most is a deliberately vague term, because there is no real definite statistic on how many people understand autism, and no real specifics on HOW to understand it, or what understanding it actually means.

It also occurs to me that it slips into the area of stereotyping. Most americans are loud and arrogant, germans always steal the sun loungers, the chinese are inumerable and inscrutable. We are generalising, but these things are usually based on a series of experiences, either personal, or heard of. Rarely do they pop out of nowhere.

Should we not badmouth NTs? Quite possibly yes. Its not very nice. Should NTs quit thinking we are all gormless rainman-style spackers? Methinks yes.


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12 Oct 2007, 10:28 am

Noa wrote:
Saying that "most x are y" is generalizing just as much as saying "all x are y."

So yes. Apparently you *do* generalize NTs.


In my own definition, it isn't. As explained above, it is in my own experience that I find most NT's are sensitive; it's still better than saying that all of them are sensitive.


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