The Attack of the Trolls has begun......

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Oh well. Those people who make fun of AS suck.

Well guys. I gave them until 12 Noon GMT to respond, and they haven't. I tried to have an open debate with them about AS, but they would not let me. Therefore, I will just leave them to their bigotted ways and hope they come unstuck some time.

Don't worry Alex, I would never let them know my real identity, or my membership of WP, so rest assured, comrade.

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps I was a bit foolish. But then again, how else can we stand up to these people? It is a difficult decision to make.

Sometimes there is no point in even trying to stand up to some people, it can be a serious waste of time and energy.

My companion (DoffusMaximus) joined a newsgroup called AutPartners once to try to find someone to communicate with about some of the unique difficulties she has encountered living with me. At the time she referred to herself as my caregiver and they were very critical of her since her initial post because she used that term. She hated it. The popular belief in that group seems to be that leaving an autistic partner is better than trying to stay with one. She did not try to aggresively stand up to their viewpoints, which contradicts hers, instead she tried to unsubscribe, but that didn't work. She no longer even wastes her time thinking about that group and everything they send goes stright to either he junk mail, or bulk mail, I am not sure which.

Last edited by DeepThought on 08 Aug 2005, 9:30 am, edited 2 times in total.

Well if some of that stuff bothers you, likely this site would as well, it's called ASpar and it does a lot of bashing against Aspies as being good parents and equating being an NT partner to someone with AS is like suffering "battered partner syndrome". It even has support for those that want to go for custody to take the children away from the AS parents. It's a lovely site... not! Judy Singer, a woman from Australia (who supposedly first coined the term, "Neurodiversity" claims to have AS traits herself and a mother diagnosed with AS and describes her experiences with having an Aspie mother and most of it is negative. She even has an article on there by a Canadian Family Law specialist talking about custody issues when dealing with an Aspie.

They could read this thread in the "general discussion" and put one and two togehter. . . .you even gave a time and date, so therefore, you are naked before the judge and jury. . .

Do you think that I care what they think??

What you do there affects us all.

I think you overestimate their capacities. They are bigotted already. It isn't possible for them to get even more bigotted. What harm could they possibly do?

Curious as I am, I decided to take a look. EEEEEEEK!! ! Talk about focusing on the negatives and not the positives!! !! !! !! If ANYONE here thinks I even remotely focus on the negatives they need to read one post (any post) on that site and they will never think that way again.

I think I am traumatized.

Once my companion learned that I do not see her as being much different than the fridge (relating to the one post I looked at - "AS vs. Broken Leg") she didn't leave. I won't assume to know how it makes her feel, perhaps she will comment when she gets home. That site is rediculous. So what if I view people as objects, I do know the difference between a fridge and a person. I wouldn't hesitate to kick, hit, claw, or destroy the frisge if I felt the need to do so. But if I felt like hurting a person then it would CERTAINLY be something else, like the fridge, that I would assault.

From glancing at the first post, I have already come to the conclusion that it is an NT site for NTs and auts are in no way welcome there. Probably a place for frustrated wives that think they deserve mnore than they actually do to bash their husbands because they are incapable of being honst with them to their faces.

This really feeds into a fear of mine. I do not think my husband and I would have these problems but we do have relatives that sometimes act like they don't think we can be parents. My husband has ADHD very bad and that leaves our home in kind of a mess and we have already once had someone send the authorities to try to take our children. Probably one of the main reasons I will not go for a confirmation of having AS.

I was raised by an AS parent and he taught me how to survive in an NT world. I do not think that I would have been so lucky if I was only raised by NTs. Like I said before it has taken 32 years for my mom to even try to understand me. On a side note my parents divorced when I was 13 and now my mom says for the first time she can appriciate my dad now that I am older and can explain to her what he was thinking.

Responses to a couple different things:

1. I don't think trolling is a productive way of handling things. It doesn't make people think, or stop them doing anything, it just creates big messes and makes the troll look childish (in the bad sense of the word).

2. In response to ASPAR (of which I was a member, a long long time ago), I created http://cap.autistics.org/

Which... oh crap... isn't there since the last site crash. So it looks like I'll have to put it up again. Maybe the Internet Archive has it in the meantime, but I'm going to one of these days upload the site again. It was "Celebrating Autistic Parents," since I had one and appreciate him greatly. Also since I looked into becoming a parent, and got fierce resistance from my doctor solely on the basis that I was autistic (the one thing I think would prevent me from being a good parent, the doctor did not even touch on) without any other knowledge of me.

Anyway, sometime soon CAP will be back, and that's what it is, a positive site about autistic parents.