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Aridarr
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29 Feb 2008, 4:20 pm

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Yack!! ! My parents kept threatening to throw me into an institution. Are they really as horrible as they were back in the day? I mean, do they really sedate you for just moderate meltdowns? I have never really heard much about the things.


Perhaps, but then I wouldn't really know. My behaviour, when I am subjected to stress, is never moderate.



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29 Feb 2008, 4:45 pm

Aridarr wrote:
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Yack!! ! My parents kept threatening to throw me into an institution. Are they really as horrible as they were back in the day? I mean, do they really sedate you for just moderate meltdowns? I have never really heard much about the things.


Perhaps, but then I wouldn't really know. My behaviour, when I am subjected to stress, is never moderate.
Ouch. Okay, they can sedate you.

I didn't realize that your avatar was...appropriate.



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29 Feb 2008, 4:59 pm

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Aridarr wrote:
Griff wrote:
Yack!! ! My parents kept threatening to throw me into an institution. Are they really as horrible as they were back in the day? I mean, do they really sedate you for just moderate meltdowns? I have never really heard much about the things.


Perhaps, but then I wouldn't really know. My behaviour, when I am subjected to stress, is never moderate.
Ouch. Okay, they can sedate you.

I didn't realize that your avatar was...appropriate.


It is. I'm loco. :twisted:



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29 Feb 2008, 5:08 pm

Only once was I ever physically restrained. It was when I was supposed to be having a blood test.


I am horribly afraid of needles, find them unbearably painful, took 4 nurses and a doctor to hold me down, and the was before puberty.



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29 Feb 2008, 5:40 pm

Okay, I just read through the thread again, and the poster describes being restrained to a bed all day. That gets my goat. When are these ret*ds going to realize that this madness is not going to make anyone better? It goes back to the mentality that criminals turn into saints if you put them in horrible institutions designed to make them miserable. It's madness, and it's NOT making the world a better place to be in.



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29 Feb 2008, 7:50 pm

Griff wrote:
Okay, I just read through the thread again, and the poster describes being restrained to a bed all day. That gets my goat. When are these ret*ds going to realize that this madness is not going to make anyone better? It goes back to the mentality that criminals turn into saints if you put them in horrible institutions designed to make them miserable. It's madness, and it's NOT making the world a better place to be in.
ya and they did that only coz i got meltdown..im aspie not criminal


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01 Mar 2008, 11:54 am

Hey, we all understand what you are going through. I hope someday you can get out of that hell and live on your own. They are treating you like an animal, no, worse than an animal. They should be trying to help you figure out what causes your meltdowns not adding to your stress. But that is too hard.

I am wondering if there are any agencies in Finland that can help you, like Child Protective Agency or Child Abuse Prevention, because what you are describing is child abuse, pure and simple, and I don't care what reasoning they have behind it. You have one thing in your favor, you have Internet access which they didn't have when I was a child. It seems like there should be someone who can help you.

Good luck. I hope you find someone who is on your side and can help you. Maybe there are others on Wrong Planet who are more familiar with the situation in Finland and they can advise you.



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01 Mar 2008, 11:57 am

I was once restrained, at the age of 6, by a teacher's aide. She was even forcing me to eat something that I didn't like.


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01 Mar 2008, 12:57 pm

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No, but I was placed into an isolation box several times. I was also threatened with institutionalization several times.

These experiences have had a negative effect on how I handle certain situations. Let's just say, I don't take freedom for granted and I am much more easily cowed by authority. Since my supervisors have NO clue about the mishandling we receive they assume my background is like everyone else's, and I can't tell them differently. For example it was very hard for me to go from an open plan office to a cube farm because the cubicles brought back memories of the isolation boxes. I did mention this to a couple of co-workers and they reacted as if I had said I was from Mars. So totally not in their experience, they could not even imagine!

I don't think I would have reacted well to being held down, that has got to be terrifying. There was a case a couple of years ago where an autistic student in my town died after being restrained. The participants all got a slap on the wrist. I don't think anything has changed.
By isolation box, you mean isolation room, right?



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01 Mar 2008, 1:00 pm

ClosetAspy wrote:
Hey, we all understand what you are going through. I hope someday you can get out of that hell and live on your own. They are treating you like an animal, no, worse than an animal. They should be trying to help you figure out what causes your meltdowns not adding to your stress. But that is too hard.

I am wondering if there are any agencies in Finland that can help you, like Child Protective Agency or Child Abuse Prevention, because what you are describing is child abuse, pure and simple, and I don't care what reasoning they have behind it. You have one thing in your favor, you have Internet access which they didn't have when I was a child. It seems like there should be someone who can help you.

Good luck. I hope you find someone who is on your side and can help you. Maybe there are others on Wrong Planet who are more familiar with the situation in Finland and they can advise you.
dont really know coz sosial workers were one that placet me in here :? i also think they are aware whats happening coz i got control meetings..just to see how its going...are they so blind that they just dont see that i would be beter to be in home?


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01 Mar 2008, 1:03 pm

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I was once restrained, at the age of 6, by a teacher's aide. She was even forcing me to eat something that I didn't like.
ya its awfull to be forcet to do someting....they have luckily never maked me to do anything using restaint..u know...do it or else..


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02 Mar 2008, 6:16 am

Griff wrote:
Yack!! ! My parents kept threatening to throw me into an institution. Are they really as horrible as they were back in the day? I mean, do they really sedate you for just moderate meltdowns? I have never really heard much about the things.
ya ..they do:S


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26 Mar 2008, 1:09 pm

i decidet to bring this threat back up jsut for pure indrest...my sidsuation has been improved greatly :) im still getting restained but not so much of forcing they give me choises :)


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26 Mar 2008, 1:37 pm

It is good to hear things are getting a little better, i hope you can get out of there soon.
Have you actually told a worker about being restrained so much or have they seen it? If not they may not know, some people really are that blind to what is going on around them.

As for myself i have only been restrained on the way to school when i was seven to twelve or so. I used to hate school, i would jump out of cars,hide,run away, all types of stuff. Aside from that i don't think anything has ever caused me to freak out or have a meltdown. I doubt i could make enough noise or commotion to be noticed at a funeral these days, even if i tried.



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26 Mar 2008, 2:05 pm

My father was a "touch-me-not." However, I can remember him wrapping me in his arms and holding me tightly. I could tell that he was pushing his envelope in doing this, so it would bring me back down (up?) pretty quickly. He's been gone for 45 years, now, but I still miss that little extra reaching out.

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26 Mar 2008, 2:42 pm

That's at least some good news, batista90. I too hope you can leave there soon. The place sounds nasty.

Restraining, even to prevent harm to oneself or another, just remains horrible to my mind. I know I freak out totally when someone is holding me down. It's not helping me in my meltdowns either.

When I was a child and teen I was held down in meltdowns by my family or other people too. Mostly for running away (when I had meltdowns, I always tried to run). It was horrible and I would not calm down until they stopped holding me down. They stopped trying after almost 2 years, fortunately.