Complex PTSD as Result of Severe Bullying

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I see you changed your post after you bothered to read the link you gave though. I guess you saw it still had to fit the criteria of PTSD.

Actually, I do fit criterion number four to some extent. However, I don't go through distress, per se. I become passionately outraged and aggressive, and I start strutting angrily and making allusions to divine retribution.

Actually, the causes of PTSD are pretty simple. I'll go into it one day if anyone is interested. It is basically a perfectly natural (and protective) reaction exercised too frequently. It is totally chemical. There isn't a cure for it, once you have it, but it can be reduced to a level where it doesn't get in your way. There are basically two kinds. The kind you get from constant non-life threatening tension, (you can see it in some 3-year-olds) and battle induced PTSD.

If you've got either of them, get treatment. AS itself doesn't cause PTSD. But it can sure complicate it. Bullying (for years) does cause PTSD.

PTSD leads to all sorts of nasty things.

Get treatment
btdt

That's all the ones I have too! We are even MORE alike than we knew![/quote]

Actually that list of symptoms does not prove PTSD. Yeah it is a partial list of PTSD symptoms, but those are ALSO symptoms of things like adrenal dysfunction, anxiety disorder, traumatic brain injury and even Lyme disease. And most of the listed symptoms are also on criteria for syphilis, CFS, Fibromyalgia and thyroid disorders.

PTSD is a serious disorder and not something that can be armchair diagnosed.

I was diagnosed with PTSD recently. But it doesn't have anything to do with having Aspergers. I survived a murder attempt via near drowning where I was left unconscious on the bottom of pool, have been struck by lightning twice and had a gun pointed in my face. A neurologist is the one told me I have PTSD. It's not something I considered on my own. Someone mentioned high cortisol levels. I tested 500 times normal on noreprinephrine and have had resting heartrate at 120. Catecholamines were also very high, but I forget the exact number. Someone with PTSD is going to have unusual stress responses in their body such as that.

now you've survied a murder attempt? wtf ever

damn your lies keep getting bigger and bigger. what other extrodinary things have happend to you?

Mr. Benson.
Do you ever have anything good to say about anyone?
btdt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_Po ... s_Disorder

I was abused emotionally and physically for years growing up. A consoler type person thought I had CPTSD before he later thought I also had Asperger's. What's confusing to me is it seems like many of the things listed on the above web site about CPTSD would also apply to AS? And maybe I don't actually HAVE AS?

The thing is though, I don't meet those other criteria that someone posted. I don't have flashbacks to events of abuse (I *DO* sort of flash back to stupid things I've done, like when I've said the wrong thing to someone, or a social interaction didn't go correctly, those can pop into my head at random times, but not abuse). I don't have nightmares about it. I don't feel like the event is reoccurring.

So...does that mean I don't have CPTSD at all, and what he was seeing was just AS symptoms? He told me he didn't suspect AS at first.

Probably I have PTSD.
My first husband threw me on our bed, sat on me, and strangled me. He had both his hands around my neck and was asking me something (I can't remember what) and I was trying to answer but I couldn't make a sound. I was kicking and slapping him but I remember realizing that I wasn't strong enough to get away. Finally he got up and walked out of the room. My throat was sore for days.
I never told anyone for years. When I finally told my current husband, I started sobbing hysterically (this was in the middle of a mall, much to our mutual embarrassment) and I was saying "Why did he do it?" and I felt as if it had JUST happened. I felt this huge sense of fear and betrayal and surprise. Surprise about something that happened years ago!
I can't remember arguments. Even in the middle of an argument, I forget what I'm arguing about, or what has just been said. I think it was a coping mechanism in my first marriage.

Richard do get a life. I've talked about that before on here many a times. I was 4 years old when I was left for dead at the bottom of a pool by my cousin that held me under till I went unconscious. A stranger retrieved me from the bottom and resuscitated me.

I would be more than happy to refer you to my Voc Rehab counselor here in Flag and also my neuropsychologist if you would like to question any of my injuries or diagnosis. Maybe you should contact the latter because you really do need more counseling than the Guidance Center apparently was able to give you. Better yet next time I have an appointment at Voc you should meet me there at the office and I will introduce you to my counselor who can get you help. If you ever get up enough courage to go I'm sure she would talk to you. It's over next door to Bookman's.

That's so scary. I hope it's something that isn't affecting your life too much now I mean I hope you're life is okay now (sorry this sounds wrong).

I don't understand what's wrong with someone that they could do that, and unfortunately I guess it's pretty common.

i know where it is, ive already been there. is her first name judy? no thanks. and i dont want to meet you ever. and why would you be going to VR? i thought you had a job

Thank you for your compassion, Wolfpup.
I debated whether I should even write that, but I think it's theraputic to do so.
And I hope if anyone out there is being abused, they will find their way out.

You are not irrational. Our problem is that we are too rational for our own good, and we expose the lies and stupidity and fiction of the world with our every move and breath. That is why we are hated, told we are wrong and broken and crazy, that we must not trust our senses.

Rules are for equals. Authority is a master/slave relationship. We can have rules without authority. You are right to be angry when someone tries to control you like a slave for their own gain.

Think of the massive authority a teacher, via the state, has over you. You MUST go to school, or an armed thug will come and get you. If you resist, deadly force may be applied against you.

The penalty for breaking any law is death, even down to speeding tickets. If you don't pay, they will come and take things from you that you worked for and earned. If you resist, they can and will use deadly force against you.

Authority is the exact opposite of rules.

RE: DSM

It is crap. Absolute crap. It has nothing to do with science or helping people, and everything to do with the petty political agendae of the medical associations (aka unelected and quasi-governmental arms of the state) governments, and pharma companies. For instance, every psychiatrist knows that the effect of antidepressants is mostly due to placebo effect. If they cured you, then they couldn't keep billing you or your insurance company, could they?

A meta-analysis of nineteen nineteen double-blind antidepressant trials published in the American Psychological Association's online publication, Prevention and Treatment (Guy Sapirstein PhD of Westwood Lodge Hospital, Needham, MA, co-author) in 1998 caused an uproar in professional circles when it was revealed that the placebo effect accounted for a mind-boggling 75 percent of an antidepressant's result - any antidepressant, you name it.

Four years later, the July 2002 Prevention and Treatment published another study by Dr Kirsch that analyzed the FDA database of 47 placebo-controlled short-term clinical trials involving the six most widely prescribed antidepressants approved between 1987 and 1999. These included "file drawer" studies, ie trials that failed but were usually never published.

What Dr Kirsch and his colleagues found was that 80 percent of the medication response in the combined drug groups was duplicated in the placebo groups, and that the mean difference between the drug and placebo was a "clinically insignificant" two points on both the 17-item and 21-item Hamilton Depression Scale, regardless of the size of the drug dose. The placebo factor ranged from a high of 89 percent for the Prozac response, according to the study, and a low of 69 percent for the Paxil response. In four trials, the placebo equaled or achieved marginally better results than the drug. In the nine expert commentaries published with the study, none of the commentators disputed the study's main findings.

[url=http://www.mcmanweb.com/article-18.htm]Source[/i]

ADHD, PTSD, AS, Nonverbal Learning Disability, these are all just fictional constructs we use to organize various traits and symptoms which cluster together. In other words, diseases which can be defined into and out of existence on someone's subjective say-so. Homosexuality was in earlier editions of the DSM.

I have elements of all of these, including some fragile-x symptoms like swayback and messed up teeth alignment.

About a week ago I just happened to be reading Wikipedia (I know, I'm a wildman) and I happened to come across the listing for Asperger's.

I have IQ in the 98th percentile, but scored only 84th for math, which I suck at. Random loss of balance, childhood hyperactivity and seizures, disgust and horror at certain sounds (hood range fans, mouth noises, some birds, dogs barking) impaired ability to visualize, literal thinking, tend to feel pain as pleasure, can't remember names, love wordplay and writing silly poems, give pedantic lectures on things like firearms, will kick your ass at Trivial Pursuit, acting or being on stage makes me feel normal, I can mimic almost anyone and can only sing when I mimic, weird stimming behaviour like clicking my teeth together in time to music, autodidacticism, impulsiveness, a top-notch BS detector and an absolute hatred of arbitrary authority.

This was known by my parents, my teachers, my guidance counselors, doctors, everyone who should have BEEN ON THE GODDAMN BALL was a goldbricking useless ass who phoned it in every day to get their union-and-state-guaranteed paycheck. When you can read at three, is it that unusual to be bored to distraction by being forced to write out C-A-T and A-X and H-O-U-S-E at six or seven years of age?

Teachers HATE children. Doctors HATE sick people. Guidance counselors HATE success, or they wouldn't be fakkin guidance counselors. The only difference between them and the people that shoot up public places is degree - "I used to be weak, now I am the one who gets to abuse power."

Life's losers boss us around for their own gain. They falsely define our problems, give us fake solutions to problems they caused in the first place, invalidate our senses and belittle our wonderment, put us on pedestals and vent their rage on us when we fail to perform to those unrealistic standards.

Never underestimate the lengths that insecure people will go to to tear you down.

Never forget that the insecure are the ones in charge.

Never forget that sometimes to survive, we need to learn to blend in and be faceless.

Never forget that all you have for sure is you, and your wonderful, gorgeous mind.

Jesus. I've always been big and strong, and I could never even imagine using my physical power to hurt someone so much smaller than me, much less a woman. I can't understand the mindset. I've always wanted to be someone that protects those who can't fight back, so that's what I do.

What happened to you was so unjust. It was wrong. It was not abusive simply for the physical aspect, it was abusive because it was all based around a lie, the lie that the poisoner is the healer, that the man who hates you is the man who loves you, a lie you were forced to believe for the sake of survival.

No wonder you felt as you did. You'd be weird if you didn't. You've been trained in a brutal, Pavlovian manner that your thoughts are not yours to have, that certain ones are allowed and not allowed. In law, there are two concepts, called "mens rea" and "actus reus", or guilty thoughts and guilty acts; both must be present for there to be a crime.

Your anger and pain is righteous.

There is no such thing as a bad emotion. We have them for a reason. I know its especially hard for women to express anger without guilt due to social conditioning, but if you can immerse yourself in your anger and channel it to useful ends, you've got it 90% licked.

Now, I'm warning you that there is some swearing and some pretty unsettling subject matter being discussed in the following video, but it was one of the most therapeutic things I have ever watched, as it helped me to realize that my anger was justified and could be laundered into a passion for writing wrongs.

Again, this may be upsetting, this is a powerful speech - Henry Rollins "Ember of Rage"

sounds like me.

1. exaggerated emotional and physical reactions to triggers that remind the person of the trauma.

2. Emotional numbing: feeling detached, lack of emotions (especially positive ones), loss of interest in activities

3. Avoidance: avoiding activities, people, or places that remind the person of the trauma (I honestly don't like going out in public now. i'm very afraid someone I know will see me, and that if they do they will tell all their friends, or they will see me and harass me. I also avoid going out when i school is out)

4. Increased arousal: difficulty sleeping and concentrating, irritability, hypervigilance (being on guard), and exaggerated startle response.

yeah its judy. or at least that is one of the counselors i've had to deal with. i do have a job. VR is not just for those looking for a job. they pay for hearing aids because health insurance does not pay for them. my old pair of HA's is not working right so they are going to get me a new pair and glasses. plus they give OT for Aspies and also sending me for evals for the TBI's as I am starting to have coordination problems and short term memory loss. kinda like the blue fish in the Nemo movie... they are more willing to work with someone that already has a job. though i'm not liking all the evals. i feel like the dr did something to me because i felt spacey afterwards and fell on porch. it wasn't like a tripping fall it was like a blacking out for a second fall. not sure if that was a seizure or something else. it was just weird i started getting dizzy during all the coordination tests. they're going to send me to more specialists now i think.

I have Post Humiliation-During-Quasi-Dangerous-Times Stress Disorder.