Why Does my Autie Daughter Love Spiderman

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05 Nov 2007, 11:04 am

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Spider Man NEVER loses.


Spider man ALWAYS loses. That's the point.

He lost his fiance Gwen Stacy, he lost his mentor Norman Osborn(green goblin). He lost his best friend Harry Osborn(Green goblin II). He lost his uncle because he was petty. He still has not had kids because him and Mary Jane had a miscarrage.

And that is just the stuff he lost because he got his power. Stuff he considers to be "his fault"

He also struggles financially, barely eeking out a living with photos that he sells to a man who hates spiderman.

He is a tragic hero, the first superhero with problems, in fact. All comics were pretty much the same before Spiderman: a big brute solves every problem in a 30 minute show, a 5 minute serial, or a 20 page comic book. Spiderman never solves anything, he just fights hard to keep his head above water and to hopefully make the city a little better tomorrow. He's a geeky teenager with geeky problems, who just happens to put on a cool looking costume every night so that people who are much stronger than him can kick the crap out of him, so that he can be ridiculed by the media and capture fleeting thanks from the few who understand him.

The movies take away some of what makes spiderman so magic. Especially the web shooters. In the comics they were not a mutation, they were an invention that he made to complement his powers. He is a scientist and a very gifted one at that. He invented the web shooters and the fluid that goes in them.



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05 Nov 2007, 11:36 am

I think you might have something about the eyes. My son says it's incredibly hard for him to draw people's faces because he can't actually look at people's eyes. I find faces difficult as well. I think that our brains go into lock trying to decipher the meaning behind facial expressions and we completely forget about the art part of that interpretation. He was having trouble drawing figures in general and so I got him a wooden faceless jointed model to practice from. He's much better at figures.

I also wonder what the attraction is with anime. I think it has to do with the limit of the facial expressions on characters. There's not a lot of gray area in their faces and the interpretation of them. I get comic books mostly, but I don't get anime. Kid loves it though. Incidentally also went through a Batman phase and a Spiderman phase.


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05 Nov 2007, 11:45 am

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I loved Spiderman, when I was little.


Me too :D I liked also Batman very much :D I still do. I even remember that at the age of about 10 I created in my head an internal world based on Batman cartoon in which I was a kind of superheroine :D



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05 Nov 2007, 11:48 am

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I also wonder what the attraction is with anime.


Well, I find the art to be incredibly beautiful. I really love the characters too.



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05 Nov 2007, 11:51 am

Not to sidetrack the intent of the conversation here, but is the attraction in anime in the surrealistic quality of the heart. There is an ethereal quality about some of the art that I do find attractive.


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05 Nov 2007, 12:01 pm

Kateyjane wrote:
I think you might have something about the eyes. My son says it's incredibly hard for him to draw people's faces because he can't actually look at people's eyes. I find faces difficult as well. I think that our brains go into lock trying to decipher the meaning behind facial expressions and we completely forget about the art part of that interpretation. He was having trouble drawing figures in general and so I got him a wooden faceless jointed model to practice from. He's much better at figures.

I also wonder what the attraction is with anime. I think it has to do with the limit of the facial expressions on characters. There's not a lot of gray area in their faces and the interpretation of them. I get comic books mostly, but I don't get anime. Kid loves it though. Incidentally also went through a Batman phase and a Spiderman phase.


Rent the anime movie Grave of the Fireflies. Incredibly moving and couldn't have been so powerful had it not been anime,


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05 Nov 2007, 12:24 pm

The only comic books I like are by Jhonen Vasquez... :twisted: It's a strange thing, his cartoon has been erroneously classed as anime in the past. I think it has something to do with the large eyes.

As for Spiderman; the colours and patterns of his suit are quite appealing, visually. I don't know much about very autistic children, but I liked that kind of thing when I was younger.


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05 Nov 2007, 1:22 pm

Smelena wrote:
Spiderman (and other superheroes) are fantastic!

The goodies are good.

The baddies are bad.

There are no shades of grey.

It's predictable - the superhero will always save the day and justice served!

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I think this is the real reason.

I loved TMNT when I was 3-6 years old, and Power Rangers were the best for me when I was 8-10, also these series were my biggest obsessions when I was little.

My obsessions follows the the same patterns as Spiderman (predictability, of course).