Does the Myers-Briggs system really apply to us?

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15 Nov 2007, 3:45 am

I took one online

I got an ISTJ

Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
89 1 50 33

You are:

* very expressed introvert
* slightly expressed sensing personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* moderately expressed judging personality

is that good?



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15 Nov 2007, 3:48 am

Icarus_Falling wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
I am on the borderline of INTP/INTJ, and the descriptions of both of those describe me pretty well.

I am the same. Damnit, you're the second person I've met here who's right on that line. I thought I was unique. :( :wink:

Quoted from what I've written before:

"MBTI/Jung-type Profile:: INTP

The "Architect". Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood.

I tend to be a very strong I, and a fairly strong N; I'm very borderline wrt T vs. F and P vs. J. I always seem to fall just a bit on the T side, but often I come out as an INTJ (the "Mastermind") on these tests. Make of that what you will.
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Good fortune,

- Icarus is just another mastermind architect...


Make that three. INTP/INTJ very close between judging and perceiving.


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15 Nov 2007, 5:55 am

EvilKimEvil wrote:
Well, technically, the Myers-Briggs doesn't accurately apply to anyone. Even though many people get the same result each time, it does not actually measure personality--it gives a rough idea of how the test-taker views himself/herself. It is not an objective test and therefore not scientifically valid. But it is fun.


I could not have said it better KIM!


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15 Nov 2007, 11:19 am

I got ISTP, with borderline P/J, moderate S, and extreme I and T.



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15 Nov 2007, 11:25 am

I have been taking this test for 20 years, and always come out INTJ.
I took it over and over, because there were times when I thought I was changing and becoming less extrovert, or more compassionate...but always the results are the same.

My boyfriend found me on a dating site, which offered the test to add to the profile - he is ENTJ - and said he had been searching for an INTJ for years....apparently there are not many of us in the general population.

A fun quote that I found:
ENTJ= the Great and Powerful OZ
INTJ= the Man Behind the Curtain


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15 Nov 2007, 11:25 am

I apologize for this, but once again, I do not mean for this thread to be one where people simply post whatever results the MBTI gave them. There are already threads created for that purpose. I want to know the theoretical implications of how the Myers-Briggs system and Asperger's Syndrome are/are not compatible.



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15 Nov 2007, 12:56 pm

Helek_Aphel wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I got ENFP. How rare is it for an Aspie to get E***?

Tim

I would say it's incredibly rare.
Asperger's syndrome seems to promote I and J, which is another problem I have with applying the system to us.

ESTJ, every time. Heh.



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15 Nov 2007, 1:28 pm

Helek_Aphel wrote:
I want to know the theoretical implications of how the Myers-Briggs system and Asperger's Syndrome are/are not compatible.

How about devising an original research project? What would your hypothesis be? It seems you would have a willing group of diagnosed AS people you would be able to draw upon.
This sounds fascinating.



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15 Nov 2007, 2:02 pm

Do any of those tests apply to anyone? Arguably, not really. There is some truth to that stuff, but it's mostly full of it.



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15 Nov 2007, 6:27 pm

riverotter wrote:
Helek_Aphel wrote:
I want to know the theoretical implications of how the Myers-Briggs system and Asperger's Syndrome are/are not compatible.

How about devising an original research project? It seems you would have a willing group of diagnosed AS people you would be able to draw upon.

Sure, I'd like to do that, since this thread isn't really working, but I do not have a group of diagnosed AS people, I really don't know all the pieces of the theory that I would like, I should think I'm definitely a bit too young right now, and this only qualifies as an interest for me since no matter what the outcome would be, nothing really happens.



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15 Nov 2007, 7:35 pm

Helek_Aphel wrote:
Sure, I'd like to do that, since this thread isn't really working, but I do not have a group of diagnosed AS people, I really don't know all the pieces of the theory that I would like, I should think I'm definitely a bit too young right now, and this only qualifies as an interest for me since no matter what the outcome would be, nothing really happens.

I thought the outcome would be satisfaction for you in pursuing what appears to be something of great interest, and possibly adding to the body of knowledge about those with AS in a deep and meaningful way.
Ummm...by "a group of diagnosed people" could you not mean "the set of all diagnosed AS persons on WP who would respond to a request to answer some online tests," or do you think it would need to be in-person research? Do you think people answer online tests and written tests in a (perhaps) dishonest fashion? Is chronological age a barrier in itself, or do you think that you lack the resources to conduct a reasonably formal study, age notwithstanding?



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15 Nov 2007, 8:04 pm

riverotter wrote:
I thought the outcome would be satisfaction for you in pursuing what appears to be something of great interest, and possibly adding to the body of knowledge about those with AS in a deep and meaningful way.
Ummm...by "a group of diagnosed people" could you not mean "the set of all diagnosed AS persons on WP who would respond to a request to answer some online tests," or do you think it would need to be in-person research? Do you think people answer online tests and written tests in a (perhaps) dishonest fashion? Is chronological age a barrier in itself, or do you think that you lack the resources to conduct a reasonably formal study, age notwithstanding?

As far as your outcome, well, yes, there was always that, but still... I am taking a course that is affecting my thinking in the topics of "Interests" and "Pursuit of Goals". If you really are interested in this course, I could summarize it, but it is, after all, an entire course.
I think the research would have to be in-person. Even with the psychologically normal people that the system was designed for, people are recommended to review and question their results with a person who has been professionally trained to administer the test.
I believe that the answers people give on tests can be intentionally or unintentionally false. I think more often false answers are unintentional.
My chronological age is not a barrier in itself. My age prevents me from having the resources to conduct the research.



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27 Aug 2010, 1:45 pm

Actually, Nelek Aphel, categorizing is an Introverted Thinking function, as is analyzing. Extraverted Thinking is the function that involves categorizing and judging other people, which is funny, since most of the world uses that function. I'm obsessed with the MBTI because I want to know people's habits, and I want them to grow as a person. Oh, I'm an INFP. If you want how much, I'm 90% introverted, 90% intuitive, 100% feeling (which is ironic considering "most" Asperger's Syndrome benificiaries), and 100% percieving, so I'm INFP. It sounds like Asperger's, too.

Read this for an example! ^^
http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INFP_per.html



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27 Aug 2010, 2:27 pm

The test only applies to behaviors that are present and not the root cause of the behavior so I wouldn't say that that all of the types necessarily qualify as psychologically sound or neurotypical, some are more or less disposed to the *crazy* than others.

Before ADHD was identified it was described pretty well by the ENTP profile, at least very typical cases. It's also said that those of us with an Ne but especially Ni are a bit of a psychological anomaly anyway, simply because of our tendency to withdraw and observe. The INTP type is very closely aligned with the traits of autism and some other psychological *disorders* that deviate from the norm.

I posted something very similar to this a few months ago and got an excellent response from an MBIT trainer ^__^

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp2848447.html#2848447