Frustrated - Not NT enough, Not AS enough

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Us Aspie one thing that NTs do not have, we are out-of-the box thinkers and the problem is that the world needs us. There is a void of leadership in the world and the NTs desperately need it. It comes to down to having a good social skills but keeping your aspie way of thinking is what required to solve the world problem. It is time for the Aspie revolution.

Where does that leave you? On WP!

As for people discovering late in life there is a reason, I am sixty. Everyone deals with the garbage of life till forty, personal life does begin at forty.

When you stop dealing with them, the world, and understand, it sucks, nothing to do about it, you start thinking about what you want for you, and the hell with them all.

I love WP, my prior social life, involvement with the mass of people, was solving the remaing problems with Tesla's Death Ray. Now I do not even care that much.

It come down to am I going to have fun today? It is my choice.

I also work from home, sell on the Internet, and life is much better.

You must adapt to NT culture, try becoming the Crazy Cat Lady, it works.

crisco is right about leadership, we do have it, but those who need it, want to control it, NT thinking.

As children, they showed us who they really were. One, alone, with people you should be able to trust, trying to be a good kid, we were sucker punched all through life. After being hit many times, I hit back once, and the police were called because I was violent?

As a group we were their target of abuse through life. We tried to fit in.

When I told them they could pay now or later, with interest, they backed away, and said I was crazy.

I am so crazy when they see me they turn and leave as fast as they can, for I am not finished with them.

I can panic a whole herd of NTs. We going to play Pain now! I am going to rack up some points! Even in gangs they can only give pain, not take it. They wish there was a law against people who fight back, and have a high tolerance for pain.

A Street Gang of a half dozen Apsies could take over a city. NTs take a group to become one, alone they beg to not be hurt, in groups they avoid an equal exchange, one has to lead, to be the Jesus who is going to pay for everyone's sins, and no NT has ever stepped up.

At least they feel safe in groups, until they meet another group. Now they are free to roam, as long as they stay off my turf. If Aspie Gangs roamed, NTs would hold no turf.

Now we gather, tell what they are like, when confronted, they show guilt, fear, and beg to not be hurt.

Postpaleo named them well, fearbiters. They attack us because they fear us. When we attack, they flee.

Our power far exceeds our numbers. NTs are slaves without owners, we can own them.

I feel that way. People don't believe there's anything really wrong, but they do think I'm weird if I spend too much time with them. I'm ok with introductions, college and job interviews, etc in general. Once I have to socialize a lot (like with dormmates) things start to unravel. In some ways, I do want to use my AS as an excuse, since I've just realized I'm somewhere on the spectrum (I don't have actual AS, I'm just somewhat autistic) and I want to be able to explain to my parents why i've never had a boyfriend, why I only have a few close friends on an individual basis and have trouble making new ones, why I want to come home on weekends, why I ramble on about TV, why I'm constantly on the computer. I wish I could just explain to people that i'm not just shy/judgmental - I just don't have that much interest in weekend socializing or going out, and that for me I really need to go on my computer a lot to stay sane. I wish I could have an excuse to just be introverted, and not be yelled at for being lazy or weird or not trying hard enough. I don't think AS should excuse me from working or living independently in my case - I am quite capable of both. But I do want it as an excuse for how I will probably never get the job level that my intelligence would suggest - I don't have the confidence or awesome social skills to back it up. Maybe I'm giving up and thinking too far ahead - I just feel so overwhelmed, like I'll never love college, or have a family, or a good job. It's scary, but I want to explain that it's not all my fault.

there is a quiet revolution already happening. the geeks have inherited the earth. it was a typo after all, along with celebrate. hehe. but there are some seriously cool things happening right now funded by geek money, and the geek creed - which is to make a comfortable living then try and make the world a better place. This is our time so let's enjoy it, and this wonderful place in cyberspace with people who share our quirks and understand our unique perspectives. and cheer that we'll never have to be teenagers again.

Inventor, that was one scary post, man. Yes having a high pain threshold can be positive (and can be negative I've learned) but the problem with an Aspie street gang is we're basically non violent. We would roam and end up helping people and collecting stray animals.

quirky - you will find your own way and the family and life, etc will take care of itself. I'm sure of it. You just have to take it one step at a time and let it happen.

Ms - you crack me up. I say a big AMEN that we do NOT have to be teenagers again, or even kids of any age. That thought alone should wake me up every day with a big smile on my face!

I am with you 100%. I left WP for half a year because I could not stand the elitism on this site, with so many posts (both mine and others) eliciting a "That doesn't sound like AS" response, even when the question did not solicit a "diagnosis" from pretentious posters. I am the only one stuck in my head 100% of the day and I know myself better than anyone else, and to have someone question the thing that makes my life unbearable made me angrier than I would ever have imagined.

If it's really getting to you, I'd take a step back from the boards for a while. Let the little people have their fun, applying their non-professional "expertise" and basically engaging in a enormous pissing contest on things they know nothing about. I refuse to ever give anything anyone says on here a second thought anymore because I know so much of it is presumptuous bullsh*t. They feel like Asperger's is "theirs", that they're the only one to have claim to this exotic and fascinating condition. If they want to treat it like a game, let them. I'm still looking for somewhere that can provide assistance and answers instead.

This is me in a nutshell.

Tim

What other forum is this you're being attacked on?

Why are they saying you aren't aspie enough? Do you have any NT traits they don't have or what like do you get sarcasm and they don't or you understand jokes or you can read between the lines well and they don't?


It's like saying to another NT they aren't NT enough just because they don't have the same strengths and they can do do what another NT can't do.

It's another forum that has nothing to do with AS. The topic just came up. The argument was that AS is a disability and one mother was pushing the school district, getting a lawyer, going crazy trying to get an individual teaching program just for her son. But it sounded like he was very intelligent, tested very high functioning, etc.

I homeschooled 4 kids (at least 2 on the spectrum) and never asked for special anything for them or me, so I offered to her that if he's stressed and freaking out by being in the school, the other kids, etc, she should consider home schooling for a bit to see if it helps. To me this makes sense. The child is freaked out at school, but highly intelligent and sensitive.

Instead of fighting like crazy with the school administrators (which is taking up time and money, time is passing, the kid now has failing grades but he's really smart. It's the stress that is making him fail) and causing more stress around the child, I vote for removing him and saving him from it. Only the parent can do that.

IF the administrators get forced to accomodate him, there will be more stress and most likely some resentment that he'll feel at school. This will not be a victory for the mother.

She is claiming that his problem is social skills so it would be bad to take him out of the school social setting. I disagree. If a person is drowning you first remove them from the water. You don't leave them in the water and say they have to learn how to swim (or die trying).

Anyway this led to what I felt was me being attacked that I don't know what I'm talking about and insinuations that I'm not AS enough to get it. I feel that I get it just fine.

No, Spokane_girl, I often miss the sarcasm and the jokes. Sometimes I ask for clarification (which you know just kills it further) but usually I let it go. I agree it's crazy to say someone is too NT or not NT enough, same with AS.

It has taken me several days to think this through. The discussion ended on the other forum (I just stopped posting to it and it faded). I was freaked out and feeling attacked when I started this thread but after all the retrospect I believe the point I was making is right and maybe they attacked out of hostility trying to support their wrong opinion. It seemed to me that the mother of this child was very hostile to begin with, toward me and the school and everybody.

It sounds like others here feel my pain (thanks Tim).

Ms, I just want to say that I totally caught your typo jokes -- "It says celeBRATE!" Ahahahahaha.

Hey , is anyone who posted in this thread still on WP ?? I could use a little help along just these lines if anyone is willing . Thanks so much !

thats great Moniqueij ! love smart phones ! are you interested in talking about someone ( my husband) not having all the symtoms and no doc dx but having others full blown ? we are really trying to figure out if he is apsie .. I am totally convinced after seeing what all the folks here had to say . He is not since he does not share ALL the symtops/traits . Debbie