Why do so many NTs dislike us so much?

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dont care about how you deal with things.
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im not psychic either

hope that deals with your ambiguities.

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What does that have to do with it? I was saying that maybe you had a reason that I hadn't thought of. One doesn't need to be psychic to know one's own reasons for things.

And yes, that clears up the ambiguity very nicely, thank you.



Don't care that you don't care.

They have certain behaviors, rules and expectations about what should happen in situations. When things happen outside this expected area, they get uncomfortable, as the other person is expected to signal them how to behave. So quite literally, its "our fault", and they feel resentment, discomfort or anger.

I wont go so far as to suggest they dont like to think....

In some people, they then instinctively place us outside their monkey Sphere, which frees them to effect all sorts of cruel behavior on us. The level of injustice then depends on their own morality and upbringing.

well i dont know what you had thought of.
Hence why i used the word psychic.
Maybe psychic people would have known what you had thought of - i am not one of them.

My post SAID what I had thought of. They were the things that I had posted BEFORE the "something I hadn't thought of". You don't need to be psychic, just literate.

i didnt realise that, im not psychic.

Ok, fair enough.

For me most NTs get on wid me quite well n i get well wid dem da only problem is dat i try n explain about my AS but dey don't really take note n r much more obessed wid da latest fashion or talkin about commercial music.

I'm generally liked, but I know I have traits that could be annoying to others.

For me I think it's the whole conformity thing. I don't see any logical reasoning as to why someone would instantly hate you unless it has to do with your physical essence. I've spoken to some people who have told me before "You don't have to be different, you don't have to dress different."

When I tell that person, I can't help it. The person will then say something about themselves and how they wish they could be different. I don't think it has to really do with some people being inappropriate or bad, it's someone else criticsizing themselves as they examine you and your differences.

I've also been told numerous times that I grow on people. I'm not as scary once you get to know me.

It's not "our fault" that they feel resentment, discomfort or anger because of the way we are. We don't control of their emotions; they do.

You're a funny old thing Mw99, aren't you. I first thought you were an NT or a self hating Aspie and that you were pro NT when you first started posting. Now it's like you've flipped to the other extreme, being a very definite Aspie who sees a real division between yourself and the status quo.

I think that there are a few NT's that really have a problem with us, but I think many don't. Mostly they just get a bit creeped out perhaps or uncomfortable, but they only avoid dealing with us and they're not even sure why they do it. But the very true cases of genuine dislike-hatred we have to deal with I think are based on fear.

Read my signature, I think it sums it up quite well. Aspies, to the NT observer, are the imponderable mysteries, we are enigmas to them.

When you don't know what something is, can't see through their eyes, then there's the chance that thing might be dangerous. I have felt the same way about most of human culture - I haven't understood it and so I feel that it might be something that could harm me. I've gotten over this fear, pretty much. But I think both sides, NT and AS are wary of the other, because we just can't tell what they are thinking a lot of the time. It can make us (all of us, NT+AS) a bit paranoid.

Exactly. They don't know we are ret*ds. They think we are jerks. Everyone else follows these rules and then we come along and it looks like we are giving everyone the finger regarding them.

I think I'm an aspie, but without an official diagnosis, in the eyes of an observer I'm just an idiot trying to rationalize his inadequacies. Aspie or not, I'm pretty sure I am not NT. As for the self-hate part, I still feel self-hate, along with a whole range of other emotions. I'm not pro NT and I am not against NT. I'd simply like to live in a world where we are accepted the way we are. If the means to achieve that goal is to act neurotypical or to get neurotypicals to accept us, I'm not sure I care as long as we achieve that goal. Frankly, I don't think neurotypicals will ever accept us, so our best bet might be to learn to imitate their behavior in the interest of making our journey on this planet a bit more bearable.

Im not an aspie, i am an autistic person.
I find the term aspie offence, like i am pet ? i dont think so.

Yup and thats generally what we do. But don't lose sight of that part of you that makes you different, even if you keep it to yourself or only share it with people that you can.

Me, I'm a bit over that. I'm now big enough and ugly enough that I don't care if people think I'm weird. So I act the way I want and luckily, that's not too bad now.



Do you mean that you're fully Autistic and not classified with Asperger's? Or do you mean that you do have Asperger's but you just don't accept being called an Aspie?