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19 Aug 2005, 2:51 am

i happen to agree, unsurprisingly. but my point stands.



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19 Aug 2005, 2:52 am

You sorry ***** *** * ** * ******s can disrespect Teela Clarke all you want.

I know this cat talks sense.

The only thing that one can do Teela in this sense of awareness that you're in is to NOT FEAR THEM. By doing this you give them power over you and that's a one way trip the wrong way - accept their existence but make them realise that you're to be respected as they are.


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19 Aug 2005, 2:55 am

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But its all true!! ! The facts check out!! ! I do not take any sort of meds (nor do I need to by any psychiatrist's estimation) nor am I under the influence of any substance, legal or controlled. And what was the meaning of your comment, Jetson?


The fact is, there's nothing magical about the internet. It is computers sending binary data to each other. A computer receives some data and interprets it into text, pictures, sounds, etc. It doesn't exist in some etheric realm or whatever you're thinking.

When you talk on the phone, you are one end of the line and the other person is on the other end. Neither person is existing in some magical realm. This is the same as when computers communicate.

Believe it: it's technology, not magic.



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19 Aug 2005, 7:50 am

vetivert wrote:
let's disagree if we want to, but keep it about the issue and not the person, eh? ;)


I don´t disagree, I´m still investigating the issue. :roll:
I´m from the same planet as TeelaClarke.
I´m very investigating.

By the way: I´ve investigated that this is my 100e post.



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19 Aug 2005, 7:56 am

TeelaClarke wrote:
I do not take any sort of meds.


That must be the problem then!

But lets not make fun, we all say stupid things we regret sometimes...


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My mother taught me that if I can't say something nice then I should just shut the $&#* up.


You should've just told your mother to shut the $&#* up for saying that! (it doesn't make you any worse...)

To quote Milhouse Vanhouten "If I wasn't your friend, I'd tell you that you suck!".


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19 Aug 2005, 8:03 am

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The fact is, there's nothing magical about the internet.


There's nothing magical about an ouiji board or tarot cards either and yet.....

TeelaClarke, I cannot completely rule out this most intriguing theory -especially since I believe the most powerful force in the future will be information and the most coveted thing will be privacy. Thanks for sharing it. :)

TeelaClarke, I think this would be kewl to put in the philosophy, political and religion section....what do you think?


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19 Aug 2005, 8:08 am

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My mother taught me that if I can't say something nice then I should just shut the $&#* up.


My dad sometimes said I should do him a favour and shut my £#@$%* Piehole. Lets try and keep things on the topic in hand though.



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19 Aug 2005, 8:35 am

TeelaClarke wrote:
Contrary to popular belief, the Internet was not invented by man. Rather, it was always there, just not in a form tangible to us. It is a manifestation of pure information underlying our own reality (some of you may consider it a subdivision of the Astral Plane). The World Wide Web as created by us is an interface created by us to exploit its processing power.

The Infomorphic Continuum has existed since before the formation of the Universe without our disruption. It is inhabited by entities: most no more intelligent than animals or bacteria, but some matching us or surpassing us in intelligence. They know nothing of and care nothing about human ideas. Not only this, but we have contaminated it with our self replicating virii. We have only attracted the attention of lower entities (some of our computer virii in fact originated from this realm).

I do not envy those who will eventually draw the wrath of higher infomorphic beings. Besides destroying our computer technology, they can infect our minds with memetic contagions though the visual interfaces we use, resulting in the subversion, assimilation, or destruction of millions, possibly billions of lives.



Teela honey, I wouldn't get worried by stuff like this. There are lots of nasty people around that try to scare vulnerable people with conspiracy theories that they don't understand, and the best thing to do is to ignore them. :) Scaremongers, thats all they are.



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19 Aug 2005, 8:38 am

EEK! There are two giant glowing spiders mounting an attack against Winnie the Pooh on my desk as I post this!



















Whew! They are all made of plastic.


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19 Aug 2005, 8:43 am

I can relate to Teela's ideas. They make sense in many ways... but then, I'm a 'magical thinker', so I find those notions appealing. Maybe she's expressed them in a language that sounds cosmic/paranoid, but you can take those notions and express them in a more scientific/rational style and they have some acceptance. There was phrase that Dali used the paranoid/critical method and I think it applied to his worldview at times. I like that sort of thing.


in Dali's own words:

"Paranoiac-critical activity organizes and objectivizes in an exclusivist manner the limitless and unknown possibilities of the systematic association of subjective and objective 'significance' in the irrational..."

"..it makes the world of delirium pass onto the plane of reality"



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19 Aug 2005, 9:48 am

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I do not envy those who will eventually draw the wrath of higher infomorphic beings. Besides destroying our computer technology, they can infect our minds with memetic contagions though the visual interfaces we use, resulting in the subversion, assimilation, or destruction of millions, possibly billions of lives.


TeelaClarke, this subject reminds me of another talk of similar stuff in a different thread on WP. If you can get around all of the silliness and playful banter, it is really interesting to think about our future in this context –

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 97&start=0

It kind of makes you think of the name “world wide web” and how it just may not be that far away from its real purpose.

P.S. -Those spiders after innocent Pooh Bear, let’s just take that as an omen, while we’re at it. :wink:


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19 Aug 2005, 10:30 am

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19 Aug 2005, 12:56 pm

Sean wrote:
Did your nurse forget to give you your medication today?


:evil: Geeze, Sean. Will you ever lay off?


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.....but the plural of "virus" is "viruses".


I prefer virii over viruses. It sounds more intelligent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virii

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The plural virii is frequently perceived to be a hypercorrection formed on analogy with Latin plurals such as radii. It may have originated as whimsical usage on BBSs (see also: leet). Some claim that the virii form is used most frequently, although not exclusively, among crackers and computer virus writers with reference to computer viruses. This claim also asserts that computer professionals unaffiliated with the warez, crackers, and virus writing scenes use the viruses form instead of the virii form. Supporters of this viewpoint are often accused of being pedants pushing a prescriptive grammar agenda with the dubious use of anecdotal evidence. One opposing view is that the use of "virii" is not at all based on misunderstanding. Rather, it is said, this is just one example of the grammatical playfulness that is common in the hacker subculture, as described in The Jargon File.


I see how TK can think of the internet the way she does. I find it enlightening. Its a shame almost everyone else has to be so condescending about it. :roll:



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19 Aug 2005, 1:29 pm

tokaia wrote:
I see how TK can think of the internet the way she does. I find it enlightening. Its a shame almost everyone else has to be so condescending about it. :roll:

Maybe because most of the people here are computer geeks that know how the internet works. :nerdy:



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19 Aug 2005, 7:01 pm

I am more down to earth than what TC's hypothesis implies/consists of. Whether I am correct or not in my views, these are the ones I have.

However, Teela, your hypothesis did strike me not as an uninteresting one and something to delve into more but as fairly paranoid, to be honest. Otherwise, doubtless intriguing to many people. Just not myself given my particular views.


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20 Aug 2005, 2:31 am

yep - what sophist said.