Nervous autistic singer gets help from Fenway crowd

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Because my best friend is severley congitvley impaired and I'm sick of people treating her like shes inferior then everyone else.

Zach - BlueMax said NOTHING that suggests he's unaccepting or intolerant. Surely you can read that into what he said, but you're reading something into it that isn't there. That means it's coming from somehwere else, and that's you. Whatever your problem is, deal with it. Don't go around projecting it on other people.

"Handicapped" has a specific clinical meaning and various social connotations that may or may not apply to someone on the autistic spectrum. I for one do not consider myself handicapped, because my disability is not so severe as to require the rest of society to make special accomendations for me, as it would for someone in a wheelchair or who is deaf. Likewise I would object to being called handicapped because I would not want people to wrongly assume they should accomendate me as such. It is, however, quite annoying and uncomfortable when people do, and people do that usually because they make rash judgeent of me and my condition based on igronant and well-meaning but mispalced intentions. Making these kinds of distinctions betwee being genuinely handicapped and having a high-functionign condition like AS does not necesssarily mean a value judgement or indicate bigotry towards people who are genuinely handicapped. It's simply the acknowledgement of different need levels.

If you were truly curious, and had yourself one o' them interweb thingies, you coulda googled "autistic, fenway, anthem", and personally inspected the more than 800 hits that'd get you.

Zack? I know you have alot on in your life at the moment but please consider the fact that people come here for support and we already get picked on enough in our own lives so please please dont be aggresive, name call or try to belittle other people. I know you have an opinion and i will not comment if i agree or not i just want people treated humanely on this site.

TheZach,

I understand how you ALL feel here. Frankly, I see my own disabilities a lot clearer by hearing you(as a group, not just "TheZach") talking about yours(Again, I mean the group). I have tried to become more accepting because of that. Frankly though, if you want to be angry at someone, be angry with the person that picked THIS person as the singer. HEY, MANY NTs have gotten blasted PUBLICLY BY THE MEDIA for the same! Just look at rossanne bar!

It would have been better for everyone if the singer could sing well and knew the words. That isn't saying ANYTHING against disabled people. Some disabled people can EASILY do well, and some "normal" people can't. Have you ever seen "American Idol" or one of the other countries shows?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

In the american show, they show the tryouts. MOST of those people are deluded! They somehow think they are good singers, but are the EPITOME of bad singers.

Do not agree.
am on the kanner side of the spectrum,and am not treated in a better way,it only really works if the other person actually understands autism-and not every person is autism literate.
am have been called everything from prostitute,to pyscho to mental because of autistic behaviors and MDs that happen in public.
am have been pulled about by wrist by ex staff [so roughly it's left bruises],treated like a baby when speech is completely shut down,left lying on the floor face down,with skull fractures,urine soaked trousers and concrete and sick in mouth from light till dark due to being unable to move,overheard being regulary called a burden and nuisance on everyone else because of severe sensory problems [despite them knowing they cannot be helped and are not there for the annoyance of others]-physically and verbally abused by them,being abused for autistic behaviors and wearing ear defenders daily by young people when out in the community....
although might get more understanding,it's not worth it,kanners and aspergers are both on the recieving end of much ignorance however different the experiences with ignorants might be.


that sounds about right for all the other reality tv shows as well,they all give people an easier way into getting themselves seen/heard,as all they have to do is turn up at the studio,there's no true quality control like there is with getting into it the harder traditional way.

Look there is no clear cut evidence of autism or not thats just been titled or assumed by someone. He is a person i agree Zack he is worthy of acceptance as anyone who has difficulties is. For all we know this man could be dying, he might have some medical problem and hs last wish was to sing at that stadium. That might of been one of the best moments of his life. We all have dreams, desires and i think its heart warming for people to assist someone acheive theirs.

If people like us (refering to people with AS) are struglging to be accepted by society, what makes it right for us to push of others that are commonly not accepted saying 'were not as badly handicapped/disabled as this person'. If people would have done that to Stephen Hawking we could of lost a great mind in our society.

If we start saying people are more handicapped then other people, then we start setting limits on what there capable of, do we want people to put limits on what were capable of?

Handicaped is a accepted medical term just like deficits. They mark what they cant do yes your right. However it is needed so that people can give them the assistance they require. there is no negetive tones in my writing right now plese dont be mad i just think you might have gotten the message a little mixed, I have close friends who have cerable palsey, deaf and dispracsia, i was put in their class because of my behavioural, social, learning and vision problems and i am glad someone recognised theirs and my deficits so we could get assistance. Otherwise i would not have gotten my year 12 certificate and i would feel like no one cared about my struggles.

I wasnt talking about you, I was speaking about people with AS in general. Sorry about not stating that clearly.

I WAS refering to myself because i have a mild handicap and i really dont mind this title without it ai could not be assisted.

LOL, I appologize.

I don't mind the term handicapped either if used in proper context. But when used to elevate yourself above another its unacceptable.

Yer thats right i dislike when people make out there got worst problems than others but they are entilted to a little greiving and bnefits

Several people on this thread are saying that Zach isn't referring to any insult. The thing is, Blue Max did say something clearly insulting. He made a special point of saying the singer "'seems' Handicapped" and that he didn't like being lumped in with someone like him. This appears to be in response to the initial bickering between Spokane Girl, Uncle Beer and TheZach about whether or not the singer is autistic.
I have read so many posts, watched so many youtube movies and seen so many photos of y'all that I don't understand why anyone here would insulted to be compared to other autistics, like the singer in this thread. Many of the adult aspies here are just as or in some cases more "disabled" or debilitated than my own autistic son. I have said many times here that to say that Asperger's is always "higher functioning" than autism is false.

I didn't hear the singer make mistakes. He stammered and started chuckling. Then it sounds like the sound people turned down the volume of his microphone. he's a lot better than a lot of people who try singing the Star Spangled Banner. A least he knows the words.

You in return are insulting "many of the adult aspies" here. If you feel insulted by one person's response, why direct it towards the whole crowd while giving a lecture about how insulting one person's post came across? You are also taking swipes at people's videos and pictures.

Now I am insulted. I didn't post a picture or video though but I feel insulted that you feel insulted and as a result you are making fun of everyone on here.

How am I making fun of anyone? You quoted me but there is no joke, insult or anything there that is making fun.

So, you are insulted that I don't like BlueMax's comment? It's good that he doesn't want to be compared to "handicapped" people? That doesn't make a bit of sense to me.