02 Dec 2007, 4:28 pm
Wrong - the label is not the problem. The way society views the label is. Its people like you that add to this problem by making people with labels look more like idiots by your babbeling of nonsence. The problem with the internet is you could prove a pig is green if you looked hard enough.
I embrace my aspergers and I wouldent give it up, it does not limit me - but at times it frusterates me. But people like you are the ones who frusterate me more then my Aspergers.
*people like you*. *white people like you*. *black people like you*. *crazy people like you*. *people like you*. *ignorant people like you*. *stupid people like you*.
As you are labeled, so you label others. Interesting how this works, eh?
And the beat goes on.
02 Dec 2007, 4:30 pm
02 Dec 2007, 4:31 pm
I see you're really into arguing. Hmm? Wanna argue? There's a guy from Monty Python that wants your number 
In 2006, a documentary film also called Psychiatry: An Industry of Death was released on DVD by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights. The film is 108 minutes long and is described by the CCHR in this way:“ Through rare historical and contemporary footage and interviews with more than 160 doctors, attorneys, educators, survivors and experts on the mental health industry and its abuses, this riveting documentary blazes the bright light of truth on the brutal pseudoscience and the multi-billion dollar fraud that is psychiatry.?
First off - who accepts Wikipedia as fact ever? Second off while I agree there are many people who work in the mental health field that shouldnt this film is as but as much value to me as the zit thats developing on my face. You can find any proffessional in a field to exemplify a idiotic stance - wheter it be religion or mental health.
02 Dec 2007, 4:36 pm
You can say whatever it is you wish - labels are just illuisions to give you a temporary identity that's based on assumption based on whim, without scientific basis. It's all a lie. All of it. If you believe lies - that's YOUR choice to do so. Labels are substitutes for truth and facts. They sound important and the ignorant who crave identities and sense of belonging yield to the men in white.
Go crazy. Get a label. Have fun.
02 Dec 2007, 4:37 pm
Not into arguing - I just don't appreciate your propoganda.
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UncleBeer
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02 Dec 2007, 4:42 pm
Temperature? (celsuis or fahrenheit?) Latitude? Longitude?
02 Dec 2007, 4:46 pm
Not into arguing - I just don't appreciate your propoganda.
Guess that's your prerogative Zach.
02 Dec 2007, 4:48 pm
Temperature? (celsuis or fahrenheit?) Latitude? Longitude?
fahrenheit
Dense fog Thezach. Don't drive and lock your friends and family up. Unless you are out of soda.
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giaam
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02 Dec 2007, 5:39 pm
The DSMIV or any similar model is by its nature complex and open to misinterpretation. It is only from my narrow window of experience that I think that while it is a usefull diagnostic tool for profesionals, it will be open to misuse if not applied with common sense. (esp. when it is applied to DX Aspergers / ASD's)
ASD's are a spectrum, so no individual will fit the diagnostic criteria in exactly the same way for every profesional. Sadly, there are those 'profesionals' who merely 'scratch the suface' when evaluating the data and wrongly DX or dismiss the patient.
I think that this is because they see the manual / diagnostic criteria in such a 2 dimensional way,- 'this is the problem here, so this here is the cure. Next!' It is as if they cannot step back and evaluate all the data before looking for a criteria, rather, part way through they look for a crieria to see if the data meets the standard, then its pass or fail.
ASD's are so profoundly complex and individual, it is not possible to quantify everyone with one diagnostic criteria alone.
Labels are a way organising and catagorising information. In respects of DSM IV, it is the lack of knowlage, pre / misconcepted ideas that harm.
I do not mind the label myself, AS is my 'operating system' so now I understand better my strengths and weaknesses. I think the DSM IV would be a better diagnostic tool (in relation to the DX of AS) if it were written by people with AS. That would not be possible for all the conditions the manual covers, but where possible it would be more 'end user friendly'. That and changing / enlightening peoples' viewpoint on mental health issues, (as the NAS is endevouring to do in regards to autism). 
02 Dec 2007, 6:21 pm
