08 Dec 2007, 4:13 pm
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08 Dec 2007, 4:15 pm
alex wrote:
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EvilKimEvil wrote:
Does auditory processing disorder count as a physical disability? It's a neurological hearing problem.
yeah... i count that is neurophysiological...
autism and aspergers are neurocognitive not PSYCHOLOGICAL... neurocognitive means it is not treatable and is neurological damage in the cognitive sector!
that's ridiculous. Asperger's or auditory processing disorder does not mean there is physical damage to the brain. And no, I don't have a physical disability.
im talking about classic autism.. and if you have ever looked at an MRI of an autistic brain and a normal brain you notice very small but distinct differences in the neurophysical composition! no argument!
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08 Dec 2007, 4:15 pm
Yup, but it seems my "bonus disabilities" are somewhat milder than what some of you guys describe.
For starters, there's good ol' hay fever, although early treatment means that today there need to be quite a lot of the "right" kind of pollen in the air before I react to it 
And I was born completely deaf in one ear -- basically meaning that I have always heard everything "in mono". I can't even imagine what it "feels like" to be able to pin-point where a sound comes from.
My sense of smell doesn't work (not sure whether this one counts as a disability or not... 
)
And although my eyesight in and of itself is just about as 20-20 as it gets, I have this little oddity that if I try to look upwards by only moving the eyes in their sockets (and not moving the head), I become odd-eyed. This actually came in pretty handy back in school, where some substitute teachers thought I was about to faint or something when I did this 
So all in all, instead of one or to big serious health issues, I've got a whole bunch of cold solderings and malfunctioning little subsystems here and there...!
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08 Dec 2007, 4:45 pm
Scramjet wrote:
Yup, but it seems my "bonus disabilities" are somewhat milder than what some of you guys describe.
For starters, there's good ol' hay fever, although early treatment means that today there need to be quite a lot of the "right" kind of pollen in the air before I react to it
And I was born completely deaf in one ear -- basically meaning that I have always heard everything "in mono". I can't even imagine what it "feels like" to be able to pin-point where a sound comes from.
My sense of smell doesn't work (not sure whether this one counts as a disability or not... )
And although my eyesight in and of itself is just about as 20-20 as it gets, I have this little oddity that if I try to look upwards by only moving the eyes in their sockets (and not moving the head), I become odd-eyed. This actually came in pretty handy back in school, where some substitute teachers thought I was about to faint or something when I did this
So all in all, instead of one or to big serious health issues, I've got a whole bunch of cold solderings and malfunctioning little subsystems here and there...!
For starters, there's good ol' hay fever, although early treatment means that today there need to be quite a lot of the "right" kind of pollen in the air before I react to it
And I was born completely deaf in one ear -- basically meaning that I have always heard everything "in mono". I can't even imagine what it "feels like" to be able to pin-point where a sound comes from.
My sense of smell doesn't work (not sure whether this one counts as a disability or not...
)And although my eyesight in and of itself is just about as 20-20 as it gets, I have this little oddity that if I try to look upwards by only moving the eyes in their sockets (and not moving the head), I become odd-eyed. This actually came in pretty handy back in school, where some substitute teachers thought I was about to faint or something when I did this
So all in all, instead of one or to big serious health issues, I've got a whole bunch of cold solderings and malfunctioning little subsystems here and there...!
comulitively a sucky combo... but check out my website and appreciate yourself http://www.alinssite.info
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08 Dec 2007, 4:54 pm
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08 Dec 2007, 4:55 pm
EvilKimEvil wrote:
alex wrote:
Strapples wrote:
EvilKimEvil wrote:
Does auditory processing disorder count as a physical disability? It's a neurological hearing problem.
yeah... i count that is neurophysiological...
autism and aspergers are neurocognitive not PSYCHOLOGICAL... neurocognitive means it is not treatable and is neurological damage in the cognitive sector!
that's ridiculous. Asperger's or auditory processing disorder does not mean there is physical damage to the brain. And no, I don't have a physical disability.
So how do you think auditory processing disorder should be classified?
The doctor who diagnosed me with APD said that it results from neurological differences in the brain or the nerves that transmit sound signals to the brain. Whether or not I experience it as a disability is situational. In general, it is only a problem at work. While there are plenty of good things about AS, I have not experienced any positive results of APD. However, I am not sure whether I would consider it a disability, or even a physical disorder in the traditional sense.
APD can be considered a neurophysiologic condition due to the fact that actual neurons do not function correctly... it is not psychological. its kind of like shorting an Intel processor, certain areas of the processor are physically short circuited
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08 Dec 2007, 5:06 pm
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08 Dec 2007, 5:07 pm
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
EvilKimEvil wrote:
alex wrote:
Strapples wrote:
EvilKimEvil wrote:
Does auditory processing disorder count as a physical disability? It's a neurological hearing problem.
yeah... i count that is neurophysiological...
autism and aspergers are neurocognitive not PSYCHOLOGICAL... neurocognitive means it is not treatable and is neurological damage in the cognitive sector!
that's ridiculous. Asperger's or auditory processing disorder does not mean there is physical damage to the brain. And no, I don't have a physical disability.
So how do you think auditory processing disorder should be classified?
The doctor who diagnosed me with APD said that it results from neurological differences in the brain or the nerves that transmit sound signals to the brain. Whether or not I experience it as a disability is situational. In general, it is only a problem at work. While there are plenty of good things about AS, I have not experienced any positive results of APD. However, I am not sure whether I would consider it a disability, or even a physical disorder in the traditional sense.
APD can be considered a neurophysiologic condition due to the fact that actual neurons do not function correctly... it is not psychological. its kind of like shorting an Intel processor, certain areas of the processor are physically short circuited
What about the many "psychological" disorders that result from faulty wiring? Schizophrenia, anxiety, ADHD, Tourette's Syndrome, etc. How about a speech disorder? That's likely neurologically based as well. I don't think APD should be considered a physical disability, just like I wouldn't consider my visual processing problems to be a physical disability. If you consider APD a physical disability, then autism should be considered a physical disability as well, because of the sensory processing problems which are present. Plus, autism is clearly neurologically based.
in that case your all idiots for checking the no box
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08 Dec 2007, 5:08 pm
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08 Dec 2007, 5:09 pm
LostInSpace wrote:
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KingdomOfRats wrote:
Not sure whether this would come under disability or not,but am have a lot of problems with left knee/leg,it is very stiff and causes jerky movements,the knee cap is also unstable.
The problem has always been there,and it can be very bad at times-when it's so stiff and unresponsive am have to walk up the stairs one step at a time with the other leg doing all the work,and always have to force the left leg to move which feels very unnatural compared to the right leg-that moves freely and has no problems at all.
Am have been wondering for a while whether this could be mild CP or something else.
The problem has always been there,and it can be very bad at times-when it's so stiff and unresponsive am have to walk up the stairs one step at a time with the other leg doing all the work,and always have to force the left leg to move which feels very unnatural compared to the right leg-that moves freely and has no problems at all.
Am have been wondering for a while whether this could be mild CP or something else.
sounds a bit like a slight cerebral palsy... so YES i call it physical disability...
and according to ADA anyone with any ability that veers off from the total norm is considered disabled
Not true. To be a disability, it must "substantially limit one or more major life activities."
certain autistics are limited like that... also certain people are limited that bad by APD VPD and SPD... in my case my sensory issues are limiting
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08 Dec 2007, 5:12 pm
Strapples wrote:
in that case your all idiots for checking the no box
Only if you believe that "neurologically-based disability" equals "physical disability." Name me a physical disability that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Unless you're talking about amputation, physical deformity, chronic illness or something similar, it'll be pretty hard. How about this- name a psychological disorder that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Would you consider every psychological disorder to be a physical disability?
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08 Dec 2007, 5:13 pm
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
in that case your all idiots for checking the no box
Only if you believe that "neurologically-based disability" equals "physical disability." Name me a physical disability that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Unless you're talking about amputation, physical deformity, chronic illness or something similar, it'll be pretty hard. How about this- name a psychological disorder that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Would you consider every psychological disorder to be a physical disability?
no because psychological disorders cannot be seen... a neurological disorder can be seen.. and yes autistic MRI films do look slightly different...
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08 Dec 2007, 5:14 pm
08 Dec 2007, 5:14 pm
Strapples wrote:
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
in that case your all idiots for checking the no box
Only if you believe that "neurologically-based disability" equals "physical disability." Name me a physical disability that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Unless you're talking about amputation, physical deformity, chronic illness or something similar, it'll be pretty hard. How about this- name a psychological disorder that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Would you consider every psychological disorder to be a physical disability?
no because psychological disorders cannot be seen... a neurological disorder can be seen.. and yes autistic MRI films do look slightly different...
What if they respond to a neurochemical intervention, such as an SSRI? Do you not consider neurotransmitters to be part of the neurological system? People with epilepsy can have normal EEGs and MRIs- do they not have a neurological disorder? Something doesn't have to be visible on an MRI for it to be a neurological disorder.
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08 Dec 2007, 5:15 pm
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
KingdomOfRats wrote:
Not sure whether this would come under disability or not,but am have a lot of problems with left knee/leg,it is very stiff and causes jerky movements,the knee cap is also unstable.
The problem has always been there,and it can be very bad at times-when it's so stiff and unresponsive am have to walk up the stairs one step at a time with the other leg doing all the work,and always have to force the left leg to move which feels very unnatural compared to the right leg-that moves freely and has no problems at all.
Am have been wondering for a while whether this could be mild CP or something else.
The problem has always been there,and it can be very bad at times-when it's so stiff and unresponsive am have to walk up the stairs one step at a time with the other leg doing all the work,and always have to force the left leg to move which feels very unnatural compared to the right leg-that moves freely and has no problems at all.
Am have been wondering for a while whether this could be mild CP or something else.
sounds a bit like a slight cerebral palsy... so YES i call it physical disability...
and according to ADA anyone with any ability that veers off from the total norm is considered disabled
Not true. To be a disability, it must "substantially limit one or more major life activities."
certain autistics are limited like that... also certain people are limited that bad by APD VPD and SPD... in my case my sensory issues are limiting
Of course. I'm just clarifying that difference does not equal disability under the ADA. Otherwise people will think every tick and flea they have must be a disability.
sorry i misquoted... it must be a difference that is limiting...
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08 Dec 2007, 5:16 pm
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
LostInSpace wrote:
Strapples wrote:
in that case your all idiots for checking the no box
Only if you believe that "neurologically-based disability" equals "physical disability." Name me a physical disability that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Unless you're talking about amputation, physical deformity, chronic illness or something similar, it'll be pretty hard. How about this- name a psychological disorder that doesn't have some relationship to the neurological system. Would you consider every psychological disorder to be a physical disability?
no because psychological disorders cannot be seen... a neurological disorder can be seen.. and yes autistic MRI films do look slightly different...
What if they respond to a neurochemical intervention, such as an SSRI? Do you not consider neurotransmitters to be part of the neurological system?
if they respond to SSRI THEN i consider it neurological... however some people are just plain depressed
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