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Well the book about introverts is like 313 pages long ... Plus has parts about extraverts... Maybe your talking about shy extraverts? Maybe feel less like your going to have someone calling you a bad word for being the way you are? So you can be more yourself...


*People can score wrong if

a) They think too much & become split to which one they are & just chose one.
b) Answer how they want to be.
c) Turn to another person.
d) Not know any of the answers & just randomly pick with which one makes sense..

Add ons...

This might help

The Introvert’s Communication Style

Introverts tend to:

Keep energy, enthusiasm, & excitement to themselves & share only with those they know very well. Hesitate before sharing personal information with others.
Need time to think before responding. Need time to reflect before reacting to outside events.
Prefer communicating one-to-one.
Need to be drawn out or invited to speak, & may prefer written to verbal communication.
May occasionally think they told you something they didn’t (they’re always going over things in their head.

The Extrovert’s Communication Style

Share their energy, excitement, & enthusiasm with almost anyone in the vicinity.
Respond quickly to questions & outward events.
Share personal information easily.
Communicate one to one or in groups with equal ease & enjoyment.
Think out loud, interacting with others, &, in the process, reach their conclusions. In addition they often don’t give others a chance to speak & don’t always attach tremendous meaning to what they say.
Prefer face-to-face, oral communication over written communication.

They reported in the journal Perceptual & Motor Skills that they found the parasympathetic branch of the autonomic nervous system to be dominant in introverts.

Introverts who stay in the Throttle-Down System too much can become depressed, unmotivated, or frustrated about not reaching goals they want to attain.
They need to engage the Full-Throttle side of their system to get up & out.


This requires learning to regulate anxiety & overstimulation. That's what we need... help with



then ask yourself this question:

If there is an emergency do you tend to stand still and feel somewhat shutdown or in slow motion? If you have a standstill reaction to stress more often, then you are probably an introvert.

In a crisis do you tend to move your body immediately and feel like taking action, maybe without pausing to think? Then you are probably an extrovert if you react with movement.

Yep I am one of the 2% who voted for an E type on the poll- ENFP. Originally i thought I was an introvert and looked at INFJ and INFP but both of these are perfectionist types and very careful people whereas Im pretty haphazard and impulsive. And I dont naturally take a while to answer a question like introverts do, I will jump straight in there, often forming my answer outside my head.

Its a real disadvantage to be an extrovert aspie, you are generally a walking faux pas timebomb. I had to work hard to learn how to "filter" absolutely everything I said before saying it.

Extroverts on the spectrum are rare but out there. Examples are Steve Urkle, and Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

Sorry did you take the 72 question test?

highly energetic; enthusiatic, charming, imaginative, improvisational; sees possibilities; spontaneous; easily bored with repetition; enjoys solving people's problems; catalyst, marketer, language skilled..

How many of these match you zen_mistress...

hmm....

match me:

highly energetic; enthusiatic, imaginative, improvisational; sees possibilities; spontaneous; easily bored with repetition; enjoys solving people's problems; , language skilled..

don't:
charming, catalyst, marketer (I can be a bit passive and I dont like to manipulate.)

And,
Yes to the second one. I tend to overreact in a crisis/run around like an idiot.
But, Im rare, Im not saying all aspies are like me. But I definitely lack primary empathy and good social skills and im definitely on the spectrum.

This statement is very interesting to me as I have a cardiac arhythmia which is brought on by too much stimulation of the parasympathetic branch of the autonomic nervous system. The initial onset of this 24 year old problem occurred during a very long and harrowing argument on the telephone with the principle of my son's school. He wanted to send my son to another neighboring school for a 3 day in-house suspension for playing basketball in the gym with a few other boys before school had officially begun. My son was a good kid (really, no prejudice here), a good student, kind, introverted and respectful. The in-house suspension would be with a group of serious delinquents, druggies and bullies. It made no sense. My son was going to be punished for doing something that harmed no one and was a healthy activity, while outside the school, kids were selling and using dope with virtual impunity. I paid high taxes to support the school . I hate arguing or confrontation (especially with authority figures), I hate talking on the telephone. I was in "Mother Bear Mode". Plus I had had a sleepless night and troublesome dreams the night before and much coffee on an empty stomach prior to the incident.

Heres something for you guys to read....

Asperger published the first definition of Asperger syndrome in 1944. In four boys, he identified a pattern of behavior and abilities that he called "autistic psychopathy", meaning autism (self) and psychopathy (personality disease). The pattern included "a lack of empathy, little ability to form friendships, one-sided conversation, intense absorption in a special interest, and clumsy movements." Asperger called children with AS "little professors" because of their ability to talk about their favorite subject in great detail. It is commonly said that the paper was based on only four boys. However, Dr. Günter Krämer, of Zürich, who knew Asperger, states that it "was based on investigations of more than 400 children".

Asperger was convinced that many of the children he identified as having autistic symptoms would use their special talents in adulthood. He followed one child, Fritz V., into adulthood. Fritz V. became a professor of astronomy and solved an error in Newton’s work he originally noticed as a child. Hans Asperger’s positive outlook contrasts strikingly with Leo Kanner's description of autism, of which Asperger's is often considered to be a high-functioning form.

Near the end of World War II, Asperger opened a school for children with autistic psychopathy, with Sister Victorine. The school was bombed towards the end of the war, Sister Victorine was killed, the school was destroyed and much of Hans Asperger's early work was lost. It was this event that arguably delayed the understanding of autism spectrum conditions in the west.

Interestingly, as a child, Hans Asperger appears to have exhibited features of the very condition named after him. He was described as a remote and lonely child, who had difficulty making friends. He was talented in language; in particular he was interested in the Austrian poet Franz Grillparzer, whose poetry he would frequently quote to his uninterested classmates. He also liked to quote himself and often referred to himself from a third-person perspective.[1]

Asperger died before his identification of this pattern of behavior became widely recognized, because his work was mostly in German and barely translated. The term "Asperger's Syndrome" was popularized in a paper by British researcher Lorna Wing. Her paper, Asperger's syndrome: a clinical account, was published in 1981 and it challenged the previously accepted model of autism presented by Leo Kanner in 1943. Unlike Kanner, Hans Asperger's findings were ignored and disregarded in the English-speaking world in his lifetime. Finally, from the early 1990s, his findings began to gain notice, and nowadays Asperger's Syndrome is recognized as a condition in a large part of the world.

International Asperger's Day, February 18, marks the anniversary of Hans Asperger's birth. International Asperger's Day was conceived by Asperger Services Australia.


Leo Kanner


his studies broken by service with the Austrian Army in World War I, finally receiving his MD in 1921.

He was the first physician in the United States to be identified as a child psychiatrist and his first textbook, Child Psychiatry in 1935, was the first English language textbook to focus on the psychiatric problems of children. His seminal 1943 paper, "Autistic Disturbances of Affective Contact", together with the work of Hans Asperger, forms the basis of the modern study of autism.


Carl jung

Talked alot on Introverts in 1920...

Before Jung came on the scene in the 1920s introversion was used practically synonymously with autism or schizophrenic tendency. Dr. Whitmont states that old textbooks of psychiatry commonly referred to a schizoid person as an introverted or autistic person.

The bias may be gone in some psychiatric circles, but as Whitmont states in his book The Symbolic Quest, the bias against the introversive personality in society continues.


http://www.lawsofwisdom.com/LawsofWisdom/chapter4.html

I know a lot of NT introverts. My current boss for instance is quiet and calm and doesnt talk much. But she is very empathetic and connected to people in her own quiet way.

A lady I used to work with was an INFP on the myers brigg scales. She was quiet and considered what she would say before she would say it carefully. She was also very concerned with what others thought of her and she seemed to play a lot of social games.

These 2 women are not aspies. They both had those NT social fronts, even though they were quiet.

Im all for celebrating introverts and the wonderful gifts of calm and intelligence they can offer to the world. But Myers Briggs experts state that one third (33%) of people score as an introvert on the Myers briggs scale, whereas autism spectrum people are far less common. 1%? 5% I cant remember.

There are introverted and extroverted people on the spectrum. Autism is not always found with introversion. Recently I met a very loud, vocal teenage boy who had been diagnosed with aspergers, but there was no way you could call him an introvert. But the more he talked, the more apparent it became that he was totally lacking in empathy and connection to humanity, and he didnt seem ashamed to admit it.

You do know where your born, what happens in your life & the people around you, plus all the other factors than just personality are evolved in making a person who they are, u can take the same person & put them in 1 place they will be good & grow to having a less trouble life, & also take that same person & push them into another place & get a different result...

Same with surveys if u grabbed them all & put them together they all over the place...

No offence but NT introverts is not a word.... I think you need to listen to this radio station on introversion...

http://archive.kcur.org/mp3/?id=3983&pi ... overts&h=1

i tried the radio link but couldn't get it.
I was going to say that two possible explanations for big differences between members of the introvert population are

a) As the extraversion/introversion distribution is a bell curve there are individuals who are very near the centre and there are those at the extreme ends, with more exaggerated characteristics. For instance the extraverts at extreme end of the spectrum are as anti-social if not more so than any socially-challenged introvert. In fact may cause more damage being noisier and more socially aggressive about it ! !

b) Some or many introverts are maybe suffering from chemical complications; reactions to their environment which mess up their otherwise more " peace-seeking and stimulation-sensitive" introverted nature.
Myself for instance; I have an intolerance to wheat and dairy; the food opioids casein and gluten thus go straight to my brain and produce opiate-similar effects, which have probably contributed more to the executive dysfunction, sensory issues, and the alienation/disconnection which have thrown my life off than introversion would on its own.

Introversion can be completely masked by chemical complications, as in my case. I seemed like an extravert for several years in my late teens and early twenties, because i was in a hyper stimulated opiate affected state, but after breakdown, when my body had reached end of tether, my introversion became more and more obvious. I thought it was depression. It was a total surprise to me to discover that it was in fact introversion, become finally visible in the absence of wheat and dairy.

The fact remains that most, almost all, members of wp who have taken the Jung-Myers Typology Test come up as introvert. We may be the extreme end of the introvert spectrum, or near it, but that does not mean that we have to have a separate medical label for ourselves with all its pathological baggage and suggestions of a cure!

One more point; i was struck to find out that prolonged extreme stress/over-stimulation will push a persons "optimum-functioning brain-stimulation-level set-point" down, so that someone experiencing long term stress may become more and more introvert. Less and less able to handle stimulation and still function.

Maybe this will work, http://kcur.lagoon.com/programListDetail.asp?ID=2 press ctrl + f , then type: introverts , it should launch a download box just press open ,

Then it should launch Windows media player

This is John McCririck, a public figure and possible extroverted aspie. Anyone who goes to an aspie group will find some very outspoken people there... aspies as a group tend to be pretty diverse...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96BH_O1ORKU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckXh-ut1RlY[/youtube]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCririck