any one else really bothered by certain noise frequencies?

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No, it's not "woman-hating," it's a physical reaction. My mother was the first person I noticed doing it, and I used to cover my ears and rock to dampen the sound. And I have a tendency to repeat the offending sound, too (although very quietly), as it "undoes" the tension the sound creates (well, somewhat).

I'm exactly the same way. I used to think I seriously had TS. I had never really heard of AS before until I really started reading into why I hear, react, and respond the way I do to sound. I read somewhere, though it escapes me now where, that people with hyperacute hearing, but not hyperacusis, much of the time have AS. I don't know how valid a statement that is, but it was like a revelation to me.

YowlingCat,

It IS interesting how there are intonations, etc that I have heard in the speech of many females, but NEVER in males. It is almost like these females learned to speak a different way or something. It would be like a californian developing some kind of foreign accent, or a southern one. Frankly, I don't even know if males could do it. BTW I say females because it doesn't seem to have anything to do with age. Most of the differences are almost attractive in themselves, and I'm not complaining, it is just interesting.

Hey, ever see the movie "Love potion #9"?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102343/

The film is based on the premise that there is a vocal component to sexual attraction. Frankly, I could see some validity in that.

BTW I DO hate certain high pitched frequencies. Some COULD be easily produced by some women, but they are relatively rare and may become unbearable only when amplified. Unfortunately, some "head flight attendants" just DON'T know how to use mikes, and use this grating tone.

2ukenkerl!
And you hit my other auditory pet-peeve.
The word is red, not rad, head, not had, ever, not aver, and (all the other warped vowels) blah blah blah. It really grates, and I hear females speak with it everywhere, and "newscasters" are some of the worst. And men don't use it! There is an entire vowel shift that females are using, and men aren't. Weird. But consider that some Japanese women speak what is considered a dialect of their own, that men don't get. Think of the difference in the guttural sound that you associate with Japanese men, and the soft sounds of the women. (I remember reading about this many years ago). Maybe it's a shift of power thing, as well.
Anyway, I know exactly what you mean about the speech shift! (in the USA).

I've noticed it with newspeople as well. It's like some people over pronounce the word because they think they have to. I notice some make an extra effort to stretch that SSSSS out, almost like they're slurring it. There's one woman here on the radio that I mute everytime she does a commerical because she does that last one bad. With all these sounds, I really think as I get older, I'm getting worse in what I can't handle.

Yes certain noise frequencies bother me. I can't stand the sound of hitting metal, real high pitch noises, nails scratching on the chalkboard, loud base, people cheering around me, and these high pitch squealy voices two year olds do, people doing cheering around me, dog barking indoors.

really?:O...i just love bass and the way its feeling when it really kicks and im boying bass guitar at crismas

I think the Japanese, indeed MOST asian, differences with regard to temperment and volume, are social. And to let you know, I DO find some women's voices downright attractive. It is just unfortunate that the register is closer to the point where it could include frequencies that can actually hurt my ears.

As for any vowel shift, there are a lot of subtle and not so subtle differences that have taken place. Look at the word harass! Words that are pidgins and created in GHETTOS are now being used by rich people that are called "upper class", and being included in dictionaries!

Even on "Akela and the bee", there is a scene where Akela uses the "word" "diss", and her coach says to only use WORDS! What was HER response? She went to a new dictionary, showed that it was there, and explained how "They're adding new words all the time!"! It is sad that, if kids went back to a time even 20 years earlier, that they wouldn't be understood very well.

Believe what you're referring to is called the 'sybillant S' (unsure on the spelling). I only know of it from episode of sitcom "News Radio", when Dave (Dave Foley) points out to Lisa (Maura Tierney) that she speaks this way.

I'm female, and even my own voice gets grating to me-sure it sounds worse to those outside my head (at least I've benefit of hearing my voice from inside resonant chamber of own skull, which improves sound compared with how tinny & treble-y things sound externally). Prefer sound of male voices, in general, whether speaking or singing-they seem richer, more textured in ways that appeal to my senses.

Bass in music is pleasing-though I get aggravated at what are called 'boom cars' in my town-in part because I'm not choosing to hear that there then, it's foisted upon me. Vacuum cleaners*, leaf blowers, motorcycles, snowmobiles, chainsaws-all make me instantly enraged, as reaction to the assault on my ears. Feel trapped/surrounded in my own home, my (exterior) walls aren't thick enough to shut out this pervasive noise pollution. The vibrations from excessively loud outdoor sounds make the glasses in my cupboard rattle & clink, which is additionally annoying. *My boyfriend kindly waits for me to go out to an appt., so he can vacuum apt.

There are plenty of noises considered "normal" features of daily life that really bother me. The cash register at WalMart has this 'boop'-ing noise when scanning each item that is unbelievably loud & piercing. Physically, it hurts my body-not just my ears-can feel it through my torso & it makes me feel invaded. Some scanners at stores are tolerable & some aren't. The self-checkout lanes at Shaw's grocery I cannot bear, it's so uncomfortable to hear blaring beeps.

If you know of the problem and, in fact, are hurt by it, isn't there anything you can do to tone it down?

As for womens and mens voices, I think most men don't even dare to go high enough, and can't go low enough, to make the tone bad. Many, perhaps most, women can easily go high enough.

And I LIKE women's singing voices as long as they aren't the type of women that try to ALWAYS sing very high pitched, or hit those really high pitches.

I was too involved to change the channel, so I saw the first tryouts for "crowned". One woman "sung" and I figured that, if I were a judge, I would just say "*****GET LOST*****"! Happily, MOST women don't even TRY to sing like that. As far as I am concerned, it is pretentious, stupid, and painful. Besides, as the pitch goes higher, the fidelity of the voice is lost and, with it, the meaning.

wouldn't be much fun if someone rang you while you were on an express train on a hot day......

I used to have that problem but I have overcome that problem when I was at school I had that problem with noise frequencies big time. Until I was Year 9 and I forced myself to sit in rooms with weird frequency sounds since then I've been alright with different frequency sounds.

No, I can't control it (when my voice gets 'that way'). It happens more when my throat gets tight, which is not a physiological response I can willfully modify, and am unwilling to put self through contortions in order to attempt alterations. Also, at certain volume levels can't have broad/rich texture to my voice when trying to keep it below or above 'usual' level. It's result of biological architecture of my throat.
At least my voice has times when it does sound nice (have been told so, and I agree on those occasions). Female friend of mine has an almost universally grating voice, I like her a lot but it's sure tough being around her (in-person) solely for this reason (my boyfriend agrees, so it's not just my perception). She knows it, too-and I don't expect her to do anything about it-her friendship is worth the sensory unpleasantness.

Wow - you really have my condolences on having to put up with raping of the ears via electronic means. Ambient does not CALMING SPELL. It's just trance/house music on quaaludes. Let's get that clear. That said - you would do well to plug up or not show. Safe alternatives that do not harm -

Motown
Carlos Nakai Native Flute
Bansuri Flute Music
Anything with Hang Drum
Pat Metheney
Midori


And others. Don't torture your ears.

Same here. Been brought to tears by a lawn-mower. I swear it's Japanese devices designed to get back at the Americans for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. See also Hyundai, Panasonic, Sony, Hitachi, Honda and countless others - set at mind-altering frequencies - just because they can drive people insane.

Ya, I can deal with most frequencys if the volume is lower then average, and by that I mean whatever people claim is the normal volume, I prefer just slightly under that. Indeed, high pitched noise causes me to cover my ears and gives me a headach, and very low bass sounds hurt my ears and I cant stand the feeling of the vibration of the air and even myself.

This is why I no longer go to concerts, i went and saw RUSH a few years ago and as much as they rock, it was too loud plus add thousands of people and tons of chaos, it was the most fun yet stressful moment of my life, never again!