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17 Dec 2007, 1:29 pm

WII is popular because it's different. (If only that worked for everything, eh?) :)

The whole swinging-and-moving required for the games is getting fat couch potatoes moving a bit, and it's just plain fun - despite not having the best graphics on the market.

Heck, they're getting these things put in seniors' homes to get the old folks playing and moving, with some success! :)



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17 Dec 2007, 1:38 pm

Wasn't aware of the whole extra-movement-required thing. I think that strengthens my desire for a GameCube, really. (I've actually gotten interested in video games because they're (a) good for taking my mind off the level of pain I'm in lately, and (b) don't require a lot of movement in the parts that I can't move a lot right now. Requiring even more movement would remove their accessibility to me, which is already as-is only sporadic.)


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17 Dec 2007, 1:43 pm

...well, apparently doctors are really trying to get people with problems like pack pain and such MOVING. Regular movement is often the best cure for painful joints, etc.

Not knowing more about your problem, I'd be concerned that LACK of movement will only make your aches and pains worse in the long run.


But it's a moot point. It's almost impossible to get a WII at Christmastime. ;) The day AFTER, however, several truckloads will be delivered. ;)



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17 Dec 2007, 3:14 pm

I want as a part of my sister Chrismas present. My mother and sister are willing to pay towards it and I get a chance to play it. My sister will put it into my bedroom as there is enough place to swing a cat.



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17 Dec 2007, 3:31 pm

BlueMax wrote:
Not knowing more about your problem, I'd be concerned that LACK of movement will only make your aches and pains worse in the long run.


Yeah, not knowing more about the problem, you wouldn't know this: "Aches and pains" isn't a good description of trigeminal and occipital neuralgia bad enough to render a person bedridden (and frequently unable to perceive their body or anything else besides pain, which is why trigeminal neuralgia in its most active form of attacks is known for contributing to suicides, and even between attacks, when you have Type II at least, it's still capable of throwing someone into the severe end of severe pain), and then the medications for that making said person sleep most of the day and night and barely able to follow anything. Which in turn renders whether said person would rather be exercising or not, a moot point, because it's just not going to happen. I ended up finding video games after finding television too passive at times (but at times the only thing I could handle, and at times not even being something I could handle), and only sometimes being able to move well enough to play video games. So actually the movement required for video games is a step up from lying in one place doing nothing.

I'm quite aware that exercise is the best thing for some kinds of pain, including some other kinds of pain that I have (particularly the kinds that result from loose joints, where building up muscle strength is crucial). Perhaps once I get the kind of pain that prevents me from exercising more thoroughly treated (I just got a nerve block for about half of that sort of pain, I might be able to get one for the other half next month), as well as into a good phase of the movement disorder that in itself frequently prevents exercise, I'll be able to consider it. Meanwhile, I'm sort of half-recovered from the level of pain (and medication for it, and before anyone gets the wrong idea it's medications normally used for seizures, but that cause severe drowsiness and vertigo before you adjust to them) that makes a person need to get on a very light (but doesn't seem light to that person) exercise program just to be able to stay sitting up very long after they've recovered from the worst of it, and typing and video games are actually more work (and exercise) than they seem like to most people, after that.


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17 Dec 2007, 3:56 pm

With the kind of pain you described, that long message must have hurt plenty! 8O

You can play with a video game-pad okay for a short time, then? Have you experimented with which one hurts less?



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17 Dec 2007, 4:01 pm

Am I the only person who giggled upon reading the title of this thread...? :P


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17 Dec 2007, 4:03 pm

More like exhausted. (Although I type really fast.) I got the nerve block, which reduced the pain (didn't eliminate it), and I'm just starting to get non-drowsy (and non-vertigo-y) enough (from acclimating to the meds) to sit at the computer for longer periods (I've also got one I can use from bed). But sitting up for about 3 hours at this point is enough to definitely make me about to get back into lying down again, and yeah there's pain but there's also just plain not being used to sitting up anymore at this point. Which is why video games of the usual sort are oddly perfect for this situation (more active than TV, less active than almost anything else), although I can see why they'd be bad if the entirety of the problem was the kind of pain you really need to treat by exercise.


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17 Dec 2007, 4:03 pm

Aridarr wrote:
Am I the only person who giggled upon reading the title of this thread...? :P


Wouldn't that be "wii wii"? Or maybe Wii^2? ;)



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17 Dec 2007, 5:40 pm

Aridarr wrote:
Am I the only person who giggled upon reading the title of this thread...? :P


I was in HMV a week or so ago, and someone said to her boyfriend "I really want a wii"

I (unusually for me) said "you should have gone before you left then...."



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17 Dec 2007, 6:06 pm

We like to say, "A Wii for Mii"! ! :P

Anbuend, have you tried Nintendo DS? It's more handheld stuff and the picture is smaller, so I don't know how that would work for you. Sometimes certain fingers lock up depending on what game I'm playing (Grand Prix on Super Mario Kart) Some games use a stylus or finger touch.



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18 Dec 2007, 1:53 am

I've got a Wii. The zeal hasn't lasted.



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18 Dec 2007, 3:32 pm

I got a wii today . Now I have to do the next thing. Test it.



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18 Dec 2007, 7:14 pm

anbuend wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
Not knowing more about your problem, I'd be concerned that LACK of movement will only make your aches and pains worse in the long run.


Yeah, not knowing more about the problem, you wouldn't know this: "Aches and pains" isn't a good description of trigeminal and occipital neuralgia bad enough to render a person bedridden (and frequently unable to perceive their body or anything else besides pain, which is why trigeminal neuralgia in its most active form of attacks is known for contributing to suicides, and even between attacks, when you have Type II at least, it's still capable of throwing someone into the severe end of severe pain), and then the medications for that making said person sleep most of the day and night and barely able to follow anything. Which in turn renders whether said person would rather be exercising or not, a moot point, because it's just not going to happen. I ended up finding video games after finding television too passive at times (but at times the only thing I could handle, and at times not even being something I could handle), and only sometimes being able to move well enough to play video games. So actually the movement required for video games is a step up from lying in one place doing nothing.

I'm quite aware that exercise is the best thing for some kinds of pain, including some other kinds of pain that I have (particularly the kinds that result from loose joints, where building up muscle strength is crucial). Perhaps once I get the kind of pain that prevents me from exercising more thoroughly treated (I just got a nerve block for about half of that sort of pain, I might be able to get one for the other half next month), as well as into a good phase of the movement disorder that in itself frequently prevents exercise, I'll be able to consider it. Meanwhile, I'm sort of half-recovered from the level of pain (and medication for it, and before anyone gets the wrong idea it's medications normally used for seizures, but that cause severe drowsiness and vertigo before you adjust to them) that makes a person need to get on a very light (but doesn't seem light to that person) exercise program just to be able to stay sitting up very long after they've recovered from the worst of it, and typing and video games are actually more work (and exercise) than they seem like to most people, after that.

OT but would the long release versions of the meds help? am have trigeminal neuralgia to [since 2000] and take tegretol ret*d for that and other problems.
Do get halucinations,and pitch [hearing] warping as well because of the meds,anbuend? am used to get those with the regular release tegretol and gabapentin but lost all the side effects with long release.

And with the Wii,as far as am know,do not need to do all that waving/falling/bending about that they show on the advert,it can be done whilst sitting down.


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18 Dec 2007, 7:43 pm

I get pitch-warping with Tegretol, no hallucinations though. I can't take long-release meds easily because I can't swallow pills.


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18 Dec 2007, 9:09 pm

$400 AUD here. No MA15+ games that appeal to me.