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06 Jan 2008, 8:16 pm

As long as there is some guarantee that the others would pull their own weight or else, I'd be all for it.

My mom was wanting us, her and us kids, to jointly buy a quintuplex(Like a duplex but with 5 or more homes) to help each other out more. But she and my #2brother have a history of leeching, not making payments forcing me to cover. So while I think it's a great idea, I'm leery about going into it with them. And my sister lives on welfare with her two kids, so she'd most likely be a financial burden as well.



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06 Jan 2008, 8:30 pm

mikebw wrote:
As long as there is some guarantee that the others would pull their own weight or else, I'd be all for it.

My mom was wanting us, her and us kids, to jointly buy a quintuplex(Like a duplex but with 5 or more homes) to help each other out more. But she and my #2brother have a history of leeching, not making payments forcing me to cover. So while I think it's a great idea, I'm leery about going into it with them. And my sister lives on welfare with her two kids, so she'd most likely be a financial burden as well.


I think we'd have to be careful and ask all the right questions to make sure that the living situations work. Sometimes one person will assume that another person is a lazy screw up, when actually that person may not know what he or she should be doing unless someone says something.

I got yelled at once because I didn't know that after a big family dinner that all the females above a certain age were supposed to do all the cleaning up together. My uncle told me "Get off your fat ass and go help them!" Everyone thought it was funny and I deserved it but I didnt. I wasn't being lazy. I just don't want to be in anyone's way and just did what I was told.


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06 Jan 2008, 8:34 pm

Living together, aspies would take a while to adapt.

A collection of a six plex might work better, staff hideout, they need breaks to. I could not deal with much socialization, and do anything else.

So much depends on who is going to school, working, never gos out, or is half deaf and plays loud music.

You need a theme, students, workers, try to narrow your problems before you start. A good thing about student housing is there are always other students, a mixed apartment group might work.



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06 Jan 2008, 10:13 pm

It does sound like a great idea, but we're talking about people who aren't quite up to functioning on their own, right? Are there ANY of us who don't have an occasional meltdown? My concern would be safety, for everyone.

Every time someone tries to start a group home around this region, the entire neighborhood seems to unite against it. The good old NIMBY crowd. On the other hand, the way some neighborhoods are shellshocked with the number of foreclosures, they might welcome having the property occupied.


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06 Jan 2008, 10:17 pm

AspieDave wrote:
It does sound like a great idea, but we're talking about people who aren't quite up to functioning on their own, right? Are there ANY of us who don't have an occasional meltdown? My concern would be safety, for everyone.

Every time someone tries to start a group home around this region, the entire neighborhood seems to unite against it. The good old NIMBY crowd. On the other hand, the way some neighborhoods are shellshocked with the number of foreclosures, they might welcome having the property occupied.


I asked a social worker about HFA/aspy group-foster homes. She said that the money they'd pay to a licensed home would be less than if somebody just bought a house and installed roommates who came with the supports that they already get when they live at home, like SSI and from state programs.

Neighborhoods can fight licensing but how are they going to fight a group of people in a house who are just roommates?


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06 Jan 2008, 10:19 pm

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But seriously. I work for not for profit adult service provider and we often group people of similar dxs. It seems to work out well. Except when they are at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum.

It's nice to hear from experience. When you (the provider, I mean) group people up, do you separate out the sexes? Or do you allow mixing? If you do allow it, how does that work out?

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I don't work on that side of the house, per se...however, I believe that there are houses that are mixed sexes. My co worker actually worked in one of the group homes and I believe that she talks about men and women living together. I think that it depends on the people and the dx, of course. I know that we have a few people that must be supervised all of the time because they've had to register and of course, they would not be allowed to mix with the opposite sex. It seems to work out well because of course, there's common areas and then everyone has their own rooms.


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07 Jan 2008, 1:18 am

OregonBecky wrote:
Neighborhoods can fight licensing but how are they going to fight a group of people in a house who are just roommates?

In Oregon, there are some folks on the spectrum who aren't living in group or foster homes but have been placed in a brokerage system, which doesn't directly provide housing but does provide some funding for needed services. The brokerage system was mandated by a federal court order _against_ Oregon (or _for_, depending on how you are feeling on any given day about it.) I don't know anything about other states on this point.

I've heard that there is an increasing number of young adults who are on the spectrum arriving into a system that lacks some of the services they need, since the current system and rules weren't designed with them in mind, and the brokerages are looking for providers to help their clients. In many cases, there is SSI and food stamps that come along with the money for services available from the brokerage. It's not a lot, but it is enough to make things work out well for everyone concerned. SSI provides supplemental disability income, the Oregon Health Plan provides medical, pharmaceutical and dental services at no charge, there are food stamps to help a little with food and toiletries, and in addition to that there is the brokerage money to provide some missing services. They can choose to rent and the home they rent does not require, so far as I'm aware, any foster or group home licensing -- though I have to say that the rules involved, though not cheap to follow, are pretty good ones to keep in mind and struggle towards.

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07 Jan 2008, 1:59 am

I couldn't live with five strangers; I'm only able to live with two people that I know currently.

No one else.