can it be a solution ?have you ever think in it ?ASPIES ONLY

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23 Jan 2008, 5:55 pm

OregonBecky wrote:

Shrinks say that in order to be healthy psychologically, you have to lie to yourself about why things look more sunny than they really are. People who are too realistic tend to be depressed. I could site some stuff about this but anyone can do a search about this. I first read about it in a book called Shadow Syndromes.

I think that people on the spectrum are more realistic about things and have a harder time living in happy denial in order to ease the burden. So trying to climb out of the hole, that too much realism puts one into, makes doing things to make life rewarding take so much more work.

this is well documented & old hat; measured, tested, statisticalized:

the depressed view of life & self tends to concur more than significantly with
actual reality
to be happy is quantifiably proven to likely be delusional

what would you rather be:
happy&wrong on www.rightplanet.uni.com, or
downy&&right on www.wrongplanet.verse.tilt

me, i don't know, i'm between quicksand & a soft place
i'm lying, sorry, i know, jealously

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23 Jan 2008, 6:04 pm

Lots of us have thought of it. I've thought of it many times over the years. For me, it's an option I keep in case I develop some disease or injury I can't cope with. I see no reason for me to stick around with Alzheimer's or terminal cancer. Other than that, I lost every dream I ever had about 3 years ago. I almost took off then, but I decided to stick around and see what happened, knowing I could leave at any time.

As it turns out, my life is slowly coming back to me. I'm finding new dreams. I now know I have AS, so I'll handle my next job a lot better than before. Maybe I can start over again. I'm only 51, so why not?

You don't see a path to happiness right now and you sure as hell don't see why you deserve to be miserable for the rest of your life. You won't unless you choose to be. Most people I've seen have about 10 failures for every success in life. You'll learn more from one failure than from one hundred successes. Don't drag yourself down with them, just learn the lesson and move on. That's one damn hard lesson for Aspies to learn.

It takes time for new things to come around to anyone's life. I hope you'll stick around and find out what's coming your way that's better than you ever thought was possible.

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23 Jan 2008, 6:19 pm

Look, I don't know why you want to kill yourself but I assure you; things have a habit of turning around. I lost my father recently and a couple of weeks later I got dumped by my psychotic girlfriend (over a haircut); there is no hope in my family and the only other person with AS at my school has gone juvenile and no longer cares about me (nor anyone else).
But I keep on going, because I remember what I still have; what I have not lost. I still have my best friend, I still have my mother, my sister, most of my other friends. There will always be something left to live for, something worth waking up every morning for. You just need to find it, if you would like (and if you have an msn) if you send me a message then I will send you a personal message with my msn add on, we'll talk this through. I certainly don't want you killing yourself.
Having Asperger syndrome involves being different from most other people and sometimes people don't appreciate this, you are not the only one in your position, i'm sure you've figured that out from joining us.

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23 Jan 2008, 6:28 pm

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Aspies and Depression go together - sorry - that means that it's not your environment so much as it is YOU.

I'm sorry, GBollard, but that's not correct. It is very much the environment - the actions of others putting one down.

Sorry - I wasn't trying to say that environment has no impact.

I guess what I was trying to say is that an NT in a poor environment would be sad while an aspie in the same environment would be depressed. It's worse for us because of our condition.

One of the blessings and curses of the aspie is the long term memory - we remember the sad things in life in great detail while NT's manage to forget. The older we get the more guilt and sad memories we carry around.

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23 Jan 2008, 6:51 pm

hiunikel wrote:

i don't know if anyone of you has ever thought in killing himself ! !

i realy wanna put an end to my life , i can say i wasn't happy in my life , i never knew i could feel dejected and desesperate like now, i wanna end this misery

and if i'm still alive it is because i believe in life after death , so i dont wanna be miserable when i'll die

i really don't know what to do now ! !

I've been in the exact same place, and looking back I'm relieved that I didn't take action on my obsessive thoughts about killing myself. Remember that suicide is a permenment solution to a temporary problem. It's been two years since I was suicidal, and my life has changed so much (In both good and bad ways, but I lived to see them). Think back to a year ago, and the person you were. How much have you changed since then? Think foward, and that should give you a bit of motivation to move forward, as life is about change, whether us Aspies like it or not.

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23 Jan 2008, 9:34 pm

never seriously thought about it, but usually when thoughts of suicide come up, I realize I just need a vacation...

Gad, to be 20 again. You have a gift, no matter how bad it gets, you're still young. Enjoy it. The only person who can hold you down is yourself. So hang in there....

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23 Jan 2008, 10:16 pm

Hellz yeah I thought about it, especially at that age... everything seemed so... insurmountable. But seriously, since you don't even indicate what continent you're on in your profile, IF you have nationalized health care, get to a hospital. If you're in the US, and don't have access to decent health insurance, (Gaia help me... for having to say it) go to the closest emergency room. DON'T just accept some antidepressants from a Resident and leave with an appointment card for a free clinic counselor. MAKE them listen to you and understand that you are suicidal. You're either depressed or on the down side of a mood disorder swing. Either way, while Asperger's and Autism aren't "diseases", mood disorders ARE. They can be treated, but depression and swing mood disorders HAVE to be treated differently. Giving antidepressants and nothing else to someone with a bipolar condition is asking for all hell to break loose. If your moods swing back and forth you need mood stabilizers, you HAVE to tell a doctor that. They SUCK at guessing, "House" episodes notwithstanding. I've been there, I think MOST of us have at some point, but you have to get help, especially if you're in the US, because treatment here is really patchy. Unless they understand that you are suicidal and mean it, they won't admit you if you're not a danger to anyone else. You're right, all of us on the spectrum are blood. We share something so basic most of the rest of humanity doesn't even really know about it. So I'm saying, get help bro. NOW.

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23 Jan 2008, 10:20 pm

If you are feeling that way, my suggestion is to immediately call a telephone crisis hotline. You don't even need to give them your name.

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24 Jan 2008, 12:44 pm

i received many pm , and i'm so sorry to make you depressed
i love you all of you
thank's

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24 Jan 2008, 12:46 pm

i received many pm , and i'm so sorry to make you depressed
i love you all of you
thank's

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24 Jan 2008, 4:13 pm

Anytime, better to have a problem than to hide it. I hope you feel a bit better and you're not going to do it.

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